Taking Podcasts Live: Insights on Events, Audience, and Growth with Adam Torres Mission Matters
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Taking Podcasts Live: Insights on Events, Audience, and Growth with Adam Torres Mission Matters

Oh we are live in Tarentum at the Poduty Podcast Theater. It's Poduty and

the News. I've got a great guest joining me tonight Adam

Torres. Adam welcome. To the show oh man i'm happy to be

here i was checking out your theater and i'm jealous man you got

the coolest podcast setup i've ever. Seen it's amazing

we're doing something out here in pittsburgh they must put something in the water

it's been a lot of fun we had a great pre show chat we've been

chatting for like twenty twenty five minutes i was like hey we got to go

live we got to stop talking and start talking on the screen

yeah what are we. Doing again come on remind me no.

Well i usually say i have one question for you yeah do you

know what time it is what time is it what time

is it.

What time. Is it

the only live news podcast about

podcasting from the space.

The only. Live news podcast about

podcasting from the stage.

Adam Torres welcome to the show. Man i'm loving them

that Poduty and the News come on it gets. The

blood flowing gets you out of your seat because i

think we have very similar business models that we really are

passionate about helping independent creators helping people

find their voice right we're trying to produce things for

independent creators i think it's a very similar through line that we have in both

of our business models why don't you tell us a little bit about mission matters

and yourself and what you've been working on. Yeah so

podcasting some people would say i'm kind of passionate

about it now i've been podcasting now for going on ten

years and it's one of those things that i'll tell you

it's been quite a journey i've done over six thousand interviews currently i

host nine different shows all different topics all different angles

and as i as i've grown and i've matured through

my podcasting journey we've launched as a company

over two hundred and fifty shows and as i've done that you

know i've just fallen in love with the art the craft of it and i

just and just the meaning behind it like there's so many people out there that

i feel should be starting podcasts but maybe haven't because they

don't they think it may be difficult it may be hard but i'm here to

preach a different message i think everybody needs to start their own show and everybody

deserves to be heard. Yeah we were kind of geeking out before the show just

talking about different events and different places to meet people and connect with

creators and mission matters not only did you have

all these podcast interviews that you were talking about you just launched one on

christmas day you were telling me you're like you're so inspired you're like i haven't

done a style like that and you just ran with it you

know tell us a little bit about that show and what this new format you're

trying to. Produce oh man i'll tell you so

i realized that my comfort zone is interviews i come from

kind of like the old school broadcastings style of interviewing

so think you're larry kings think you're charlie rose like that's kind of my

style and that's what i'm known for and i was doing an interview on

christmas day and yes i did say christmas day and

at first i i thought it was an accident so i woke up i looked

and i and i you know my schedule and i'm like what there's an interview

here so i i thought i was gonna email the guy and tell him hey

can we reschedule i i think you probably schedule this by accident

but then i read in the notes and it said you know that his his

w day seven months to the day

and so i'm like oh it's christmas this is his first christmas without

his wife you know like i'm thinking like he scheduled this very intentionally

on christmas day so i do the interview everything's going great

with him and and we you know he obviously has this space to share

about his wife about his life about his mission about

you know his future like and and a lot of hope and all of that

and and after i after that i was

called up a good buddy of mine and we're just talking about and we had

this amazing conversation about and i'm like you know other people

need to hear this stuff and i'm like and he's like what do you mean

and so like i come back maybe i don't know four hours later and i

launched a whole new show first time i've ever done a

monologue show in my life ever ever and i've been doing this again going on

ten years so after six thousand plus interviews i

launched a monologue show it's called Adam Torres inside my

mind and they're short monologues they're short monologues and

reflect based on some of it's behind the

scenes of podcasting and what i've done some of it is just are

my ideas in in business or in other insights and

entrepreneurship and just life really like things that i wouldn't normally

share on my shows because normally i'm busy doing what you're

doing interviewing people letting them talk

and. All that can be found over on the mission matters website definitely

so on. Mission matters dot com easiest way to connect though just to throw it

out there because i have so much going on in terms of shows and otherwise

instagram ask Adam Torres is the easiest thing you get i

just released a new book one billion podcasts you can get that for free you

get this show a bunch of other shows that i host instagram

ask Adam Torres there's a real easy link there that takes you to everything

awesome all those links. Will be in the show notes make sure you connect with

Adam check out what he's doing it is a huge

like media conglomerate i was you know peeking through it looking and doing my

research for the show today there is a lot happening a lot of connections

a lot of podcasts being created too and just you know see what other people

in podcasting are doing see what is possible for you

maybe what you see that Adam creates is something you want to work with Adam

or just reach out to talk to him i'm sure you do you know some

sort of public speaking or one on

ones with people if they reach out to. You all about

collaboration my aim and my goal and actually why i even come on

shows this is the first year i started doing or i should say last year

was the first year i started guesting on shows i never even i never came

on shows before again but doing this ten years and last year i started doing

interviews and there was one reason for doing that the

only reason was i wanted my aim and my goal in sharing my story

or anything knowledge and otherwise is i want to inspire and

i want other people to launch their own shows and it doesn't have to be

through an agency like ours it doesn't mark my first show i

launched in like fifteen minutes this one like i literally my first

three hundred plus episodes i recorded were recorded

it into my cell phone with and i put them up with zero

editing do i recommend doing that now yes if you

don't have the if you don't have the capability of editing i'd rather you do

that and still build a platform than do nothing at all

so my aim and my goal is any way i can help people i'm happy

to do so i just want other people to start recording and launching their own

shows awesome. I love that that's that is the business

model the blueprint that i operate by and to hear you doing it

on a much larger scale than i've even dreamt of so reach

out mission matters Adam Torres are you ready for our

first story let's go we've got the

real cost of cheap ai we're going to file this under live

podcasting for ai and creators this comes to us

from mironov recorded live at productize twenty

twenty five in lisbon the product jody podcast brought

to product legend rich mironov back to on

stage for a talk in ten that cut through ai hype with

humor and hard truth while the conversation focused on

ai costs and bottlenecks the bigger takeaway for podcasters

is where this was recorded live in front of a

real audience at a real industry event as ai makes

creation cheaper and easier the differentiator isn't

content generation its presence positioning and

distribution live recordings like this show how value

shifts from producing content to packaging experiences

something both executives and creators actually pay

for and i think this is right after both of our own hearts on this

one. Adam yeah yeah i'm a big fan of the

in person event i'll tell you right now i've been we've been doing in

person events now probably for about right after covid so

i did a lot more on the speaking side of things prior to covid

did a bunch of events things like that as a keynote speaker that kind of

thing and and i still do quite a bit of speaking but once

covid hit we kind of obviously the conferences weren't around we weren't

able to do what we normally did and then everybody

went inside i feel like they went inward and everybody was pretty much

at at home right obviously depending on where you were at and

once everything opened back up there was this

tremendous demand for in person experiences and you

even see this with things like i i'll kind of juxt out kind of add

another thing here luxury luxury the luxury market like

people are more willing to spend money on experiences

and then they are like material goods in many cases

right now especially in the luxury market because luxury and

goods things like that they're kind of commoditized

especially a lot of brands they've commoditized their products but there's something

about being in person that just changes things and i'll tell you we've been

doing in person events now ever since after covid and we

do do as many as we can and especially in different markets so we did

our first one in in singapore this year last

year we did our first one in abu dhabi last year and that's

now led to invitations in africa

in london and a couple of other countries that are are i

should say continents in terms of africa but and some other

and some other areas that we we didn't really know we had an audience in

but it's all the in person people see you in person just like

what you're doing in your amazing theater people see you they

connect and at that point you're their podcaster

you're their podcaster and that's a great business. Strategy

you're putting yourself in the middle where your community is already

at and this example of this product agility

podcast they're going to a product conference

they're the entertainment for that show they're they're already

placing themselves in the middle where people who already consume that

type of content are going to be at so what better strategy than

to show up where your audience is yeah absolutely it's.

It'S putting yourself in the middle of the caravan and then also when you think

about things like so monetizing you think about

things like merch you think about things like ticket sales

our top event last year just for example like it was a it's it was

an all day event last year and our top ticket

price was two hundred fifty dollars a ticket and we sold out so

that was a that was a packed event and that was a series of six

different interviews it was a one day conference and there was a bunch of

interviews other things and networking opportunities a curated audience

but i'm just telling you like depending on what markets you're in what you're doing

now that's a specific situation we've also had like less

expensive events that were let's say twenty five range for a ticket

and you know maybe it had a different type of meal provided or light

refreshments but it lets you now put you in the event

and that's not a bad business to be in when people are looking for events

the time to. Strike is now i do think people are like you mentioned

earlier are tired of being inside even that post

covid hangover where they've kind of they did retreat to their homes

they they go home from work and they're just tired they're drained

they're scrolling on their phone all night there is this really

weird resurgence happening where people are waking up from that

and they're realizing how unhealthy that behavior is how

how bad it is for them to isolate themselves they they're

yearning for community they're yearning to laugh with people in

public and and share like minded thoughts and high

fives and hugs and they miss all of that because

they've just kind of pulled back and it and they're they're ready. To get back

out totally agree totally. Agree let's

keep it going we have another ai but this is for the job

seekers out there careers are changing but community isn't

this one was recorded live at all things open the

whiskey web and whatnot podcast captured a timely

conversation with taylor dessen and jason

Torres about navigating tech careers in an ai disrupted

world but the real lesson for podcasters again it's the

setting by recording live at a conference this show didn't just talk about

relationships and community it demonstrated them in real

time in an era where resumes are filtered by

algorithms and applications disappear into inboxes

live podcasting creates human connection shared experience

and trust the very things that still open doors

when the rules keep changing and you hear so many

nightmares about people trying to find jobs right now

sending thousands and thousands of resumes and not

getting in even a single response but then you see events like

this where they're sharing tips they're you're making in person

connections you may just meet that white the right recruiter

that takes you into the the hiring office you might

make the right connection because you're out in public and you're not battling

all that noise and that's why i love an event like this you're you're really

jumping headfirst into the best ways to find a job in twenty

twenty six yeah. When i think about when i think about

the live component and then also when it comes to

corporate america and or looking for your next

opportunity i mean what i i do i do i

do a monthly event in beverly hills this isn't my event by the way so

this is this is the website's monetized

talks dot com and it's david rivero's event and he what he does

is he brings together curates these amazing amazing

speakers and individuals and it's just this it's insane

like his setup i think it's a fifteen million dollar mansion it's on top of

mulholland drive it's it's pretty insane but when i think about the

what the way that i created this and i'm and the reason i'm sharing this

is so that everybody that are podcasts out there can start to

reframe how they think of collaboration and partnerships so

when i met him i didn't know him david now i know him and now

we're buddies but i didn't know him i went to one of his events i

saw it and i was like you know what you know what you need here

he's like what i said you need me coming to podcast every month

do this once a month right he's like yeah i said you know what i'm

gonna bring my setup i'll come once a month when you do your event and

i'll interview the speakers and he's like oh that sounds great

so now every month i go to that and i'll tell you thinking about

like the event side of things and thinking about the access the

distribution and i'm going back to the story that you just mentioned

the power of live if you're looking for a perf if you're looking

for some type of new role so now let's bring

that to somebody that's maybe not a full time person

or podcaster but they're looking for a role or looking for what's next

take that same version of what i just said and do it in your

industry and by the way i've seen this happen many many times so this isn't

just me making this up i'll give you one example we

had a podcast host her name is ronnie ketter paul and you can look her

up you can look up her show it's a it's a great show and

she's in the medical profession and she's used her podcast

by putting out great content called her value

based care podcast was her original show and original angle and you would

think what the medical profession like what healthcare

like how can that how can podcasting help me there you know

her show attracted opportunity after opportunity all the way up

to like she was the ceo of a of a startup and all these other

things and again this is medical this is like these are big companies she's

working for she was head of innovation and growth at

cvs i mean her podcast led her i can't

say that her podcast got her these opportunities she's an amazing

person as is but i can say that it didn't hurt it

did not hurt when she talks about being a thought leader in the value

based care sphere in medicare and i should

say in the medical industry as a whole she was an outlier why

because she had a show she was out there and she was and by the

way she was doing things in person as well whether it was speaking being on

stages like whatever it took there and that's just where her heart and her

passion was by the way this wasn't some fabricated like

like media plan on how to get a job or how to increase her

worth it just happened very organically but

systematically through her creating content too so

going back to your story when it comes to being live when it comes to

looking for your next opportunity podcasting integrates into

all of that yeah. I love it no matter what your industry is

no matter what your passion is there are other people like you you

there are other people who are interested in what you're talking about they're interested in

the knowledge that you may already have in your position you may not be the

top dog in your position but you know things that people who are

coming to that position are trying to learn and figure out and you start

sharing that you start building a little community guess who becomes

the the expert in your industry you do and that's exactly what

Adam's talking about that strategy to get to cvs is

incredible and you see that repeated over and over again and

and while podcasting and entertainment might be very competitive

things like healthcare or or dental or restaurant

industry they're probably not as competitive in that space they still

have competition but you can really carve out a niche and something

that isn't you know so cutthroat as media you can

really build and establish yourself in your whatever you're. Passionate about

about it yeah for sure. Well let's keep

it moving we're moving right along i love this recorded live

at beta kit keynote stage at saas north

the beta kit podcast featured a fireside conversation

with shannon bell on how open text went all in on

ai at enterprise scale while the

discussion focused on adoption roi and managing both both human

and digital resources the real signal for podcasters is where the

conversation happened on a conference stage

in front of an industry audience i think we've said that already this is

happening more and more this wasn't an

ai as a party trick this was ai as a business outcome

and live podcasting proved to be the right format to unpack

complex high stakes decisions in a way that felt

credible human and grounded and i i go to

conferences all the time and back then or not back then but

you would typically see there'd be entertainment hired

for the conference maybe there'd be a cover band that played in between keynotes or

a magician or there'd be a comedian or there'd be a you

know a celebrity doing some sort of keynote but more

and more what you're seeing at at conferences is the

entertainment is becoming live podcasts that are popular within

that industry so in this case they're talking about the things that

they're talking about the conference but the entertainment is a

podcast it's true and. For everybody

that like this is the this is i

didn't i stumbled upon this by accident really like i didn't know i

when i first started doing this i began like sometimes people would

call me and they're like hey can you moderate a conference or can you be

a moderator or something like that and i was like yeah sure i mean i

can come do a do an interview for you on stage and that was kind

of like the traditional role old school style of like being a moderator or

mc i emceed a couple of things that people wanted me to do and i'm

like okay yeah i can come mc whatever they they pay the fee and

again i'm talent right i'm hired help so i you go out and

entertainment is what we do right so once you're in this business long

enough but what what started to change and this was in the

last maybe like two years let's call it is that people were

requesting that they they didn't just want me to come

moderate now they wanted me to do live podcasting so what's the

difference and here goes the value proposition even

above what's going to happen at the conference the value

proposition was this and once i realized this i was like oh my gosh

now i get it like this is the future period the value

proposition is the interview wasn't just happening at the conference

they wanted me to also to promote before the

conference during the conference and after the

conference so talking about the monetization part like

and our platform's a little bit different so when i give you some numbers

if you're not there yet remember this took me ten years to build

and i don't care if you do one interview that's great like

don't i don't want so when i give you some numbers i don't want you

to think oh i can't do it because you can one hundred percent do it

no matter where you're at right now i don't care if you go podcast at

your local chamber of commerce and do an interview for them that's audio

only and you set up a little booth i mean one that gets you in

front of more audience that gets you in front of more people so it's worth

doing a pop up banner what that'll cost you eighty

bucks your your your get your little your mic you don't even

have to do a video if you might not even have the main stage

but it's okay go do it anyway build your relationships

with that chamber of commerce head or whoever's running it

that president could be your local rotary somewhere else but go out

and do it so i'll start with that because when i give you some i

don't want you to feel intimidated because it didn't start that way it started

with exactly what i'm telling you it grew into that over

time based off of those relationships to where now

at the end of last year i'm already booked for about twenty

or thirty dates in twenty twenty six and it's january sixth

and so that happens over time so now just to give

you a little bit of context for some conferences last year i covered the

megamix expo which took place at santa anita racetrack

in in california in socal

in arcadia california excuse me and for them i

think i did like forty or fifty interviews i interviewed all their

vendors and their booths and stuff like that before the before

the before the actual event itself and i became and

many people now add me to their to their

actual to their actual packages for

sponsors before this i just now i just literally did

an interview before coming on this show for the deal flow deal

flow discovery event coming up at the borgado in atlantic city new

jersey on january twenty eighth and twenty ninth so

they hired me to do that i've been i've been working for them for years

now and these are relationships that build over time and i'll give you an

example in some places i'm i'm i'm you know i'm the

headliner i'm i'm the headliner at that event i'm on the main stage for the

one that i just told you about i haven't made that main stage yet they

normally get somebody from cnbc it's a quick hop skip and a

jump from new city to to atlantic

city new jersey so they normally get somebody that's on like

one of the big big shows like to be their main their headliner

one day i might be the headliner maybe maybe not but either

way i'm just showing there's levels there's progression and

it's about building relationships but everything that you just

now read it's happened for me it's happening and i see higher

levels above that but you got to get out of you can't

just be like in this insular mind said of i'm just at

home recording if you're just at home recording if you don't go out and meet

the people then the podcaster that is at the conference and meeting

the people that person is probably going to get the gig because they know them

and that's the game that's the name of the game it's still all

relationships yeah and you. Mentioned that strategy that

conferences were using the before during and after content creation and

they used to have to run ads unbelievable like relentlessly and

they'd have to place ads and trade publications youtube

ads and now they're really relying on the talent and the people that

are attending the conference to propel that message all year

long if you're creating the content leading up to it you're building excitement

for that show and if you're capturing the content during the show

then you're releasing that content after the show to start building excitement

for the next year and that snowball gets rolling and that

strategy that Adam's talking about you're seeing that more and more at conferences

all over the country and in all kinds of different industries

i got one. That we've done for years now the milken global conference in

beverly hills this is probably the top i don't know one

two three conferences in the world it costs a ticket just to

attend costs i think last year was thirty five thousand that's just a ticket

that's not a sponsorship thirty five grand to step in the conference it's

it's insane the people that go there it's the heads of state like it's the

top people in the world um i've done over i believe i'm

crossing five hundred interviews now for them after in the last five

years or so maybe it's i don't know if i quite hit five hundred so

let's say i've crossed four hundred interviews for them but that catalog

also will build year over year over time

and then if you think about it for the content creators and and that are

out there that really really get this what happens is over

time your content catalog can be so significant that you

might get more traffic for the conference than the dang conference organ

which is just natural because if you also think about things like you know

not going too far into this but like ai what google's looking for what

content people want to be in if the if everything is going to

eventually point to no matter what the technology is no matter what we're

in if everything eventually points to

giving a great user experience for whoever is digesting the

content podcast content a lot of times is going to win because

it's a sticky loyal audience so in my opinion

nothing against anybody that produces this kind of content i'm speaking solely

for myself but i have watched a panel

discussion or a panel on youtube exactly zero times

in my life it's just not made for it if you're in the conference

like if you're in the conference great watch the panel all day there's

energy in the room it's different but i've watched it

after exactly zero times a podcast about that

conference or about what's going on listen to that all day long on

yeah there's nothing. Can replace being there in the moment and and

panels are that real time experience that real time feedback

you don't it doesn't really capture that and come across on a youtube video

but the excitement of being there and in that. Moment and nothing against

youtube by the way i'm not dogging youtube i'm just saying for me i've never

watched a panel on youtube in my life oh. I turn off q

and as as soon as the main keynote's done and they start q and a

i'm done i don't want to i'm out i don't so i i know what

you're saying i completely relate to it that there's just

there there's certain things that are good for certain ways of distributing media

youtube's great for intimate one on one content

storytelling showing you visuals but for

a panel it's a it's a tough sell it'd have to be like the

the beach boys final interview before you before they all

retire but they probably are retired tired of it and. Even then we just watch

the clips we'd still watch the clips though yeah.

Well how about we let's switch gears from ai and let's go

no ai no ticket price and a cash bar we're

going over to it looks like my side of the state here when

fandom becomes the stage two philly fan favorite

shows cheap seats and the city pigeons are joining

forces for a free live playoff preview you as the

philadelphia eagles fans gear up for another postseason run

hosted live at the coupe the city pigeons home base

this event proves how powerful live podcasting becomes

when it's rooted in shared identity and place no

ticket price a cash bar and a room full of emotionally invested

fans turns a podcast recording into a communal

rally showing that when podcasts happen the fans random

timing and locality they stop being content and start

becoming events and you know just think about taking your

podcast to this level like this is this to me is like

pinnacle for live podcasting you're you're hanging out you're

filled in a room of people who love what you talk about this is a

shared experience with their favorite sports teams and you're

just in a room and the energy's got to be off the channel chains

bouncing off the walls i. Love it i love it

and anything that you can to get you out of your comfort zone too so

for the podcasters out there i'm gonna give you a i

have it by the way just be up front i haven't done anything in a

stadium that big but i i have so for example i

visited david meltzer and he does his podcast out of a

stadium in in in los angeles and i've

seen it and it's amazing the way he does it and it's uh it's normally

you know when when they're not playing obviously and it does out of this suite

and the backdrops insane is really cool so i've been there and i've seen it

but i was getting to thinking i haven't done this yet myself so i hope

somebody else does this and i has decided oh wait a minute i did one

episode actually i take that back i did do an episode like this

so tailgates tailgates are fun like

come on you're at your and this is where i got the idea with somebody

else that did something like this that was like exactly what you're talking about like

that idea i agree is the pinnacle that's amazing but i'll tell you

we did one at a tailgate it was at a u of a game

in in university of arizona and or no no it was

asu game i'm wrong wait a minute let me take that back i think it

was asu versus u of a and it was a football tailgate

and. I just i just popped up you were in the right parking lot i.

Just yeah i just i just plopped up the the the equipment and i started

doing some interviews and it was on a very very much smaller

scale but the point walked up and

walked by they were curious because in a tailgate people are

walking around they're drinking having fun they're listening and my my

only tip for everybody when it comes to that piece of it

pa systems are not expensive you can get a pretty good

pa system for a couple hundred bucks so i'll give you a quick just

a quick recommendation on on if you were to do something like

that get you get a get a get a pa system doesn't have to be

great just get one you know ten inch whatever twelve inch speakers doesn't

matter and then whatever recording you're going to use it's

it's okay it's not going to be your your most perfectly recorded

episode like in studio just understand that but if you announce

that at the beginning of the episode in my experience the audience it can even

be a little pattern break of like something a little bit different like i'm at

in this case i did one from the from the from the tailgate as i

mentioned it's kind of like you're taking your audience with you but if you bring

the pa system with you which again does not have to be expensive

what'll happen is the people that are walking by

they'll get to hear what you're talking about they'll get curious and they'll

start asking other people what is this and then what was happening is i

had a whole group of people that were selling my show for me

and i had and i give these i always i'm always handing things out i'm

handing out books i'm handing i have these little poker chips with my face

on it and on the other side has a qr code but and i have

like bookmarks and we give out free books and all kinds of other stuff like

that but what i'm doing is i'm building all audience

i'm building audience and people will remember i'm telling you people

remember the first time i went to i went last year for the or the

year before actually now i remember to a washington dc

for the very first time never been to that city never i had a gig

for the first time it was during women's equality day during a

conference held by gloria felt for that and i've never been

there again ever in my life walk in there i set up my

booth people came up to me and hugged me and they're like i've been listening

to your show for years it's about time you came out and it was just

just this feeling of like whoa like and i i don't

say that i say that just so people understand like people are listening

they'll remember you so when you get out there and you do things you might

think what i'm gonna start tailgating at a tail and a i'm gonna start

podcasting in a tailgate if you're in that sports

niche i'm telling you small things can become big you want to be doing

a show like what you just now what you just teed up

sometimes things start like that and you'd be surprised if you stick

with it especially if you're going to be there any anyway incorporate into your lifestyle

that's what i say yeah there. Are infinite amount of places to do

a live show we we talk about you may not have a theater like this

in your town but you probably have a bar a restaurant a

coffee shop on a saturday afternoon that's has a slow time

maybe you can collaborate with local businesses and say hey you got space

you're sl this what's your slowest day why don't i come in do a show

i'll bring my friends my family and my friends fans go buy coffee or

whatever pastries and i'll record an episode of the show and let's see how

it goes and you start to find these little you know nooks and

crannies in your community that you can fit your show in where can you put

yourself in that you can be in front of an audience and start

practicing your public speaking being out in the

public and talking to people interviewing people one on one you

don't get to do that in your house in your basement studio studio but you

can do that if you go to a bar restaurant or or even a

coffee shop i love that story. And one of my heroes

it's not well he's in broadcasting overall so this wouldn't be

just podcasting but there's so many overlaps here but larry

king early in his career like where did he start he was

he was in miami beach he was he was he was doing

interviews he was interviewing people at a restaurant true story story

he was interviewing people he said he was interviewing kids a plumber whoever came

in he didn't know who was going to come in it could be one interview

could be a plumber the next interview could be jackie gleason i mean

you don't know who is going to come in there so it also taught him

to think on his feet it taught him to think on his feet and it

helped him hone his unique interview style so when

you say that i'm like yeah that's that's what people need to be doing.

Well let's keep it going because the next story is going all the way

to cabo i just love this story i thought the twist that it is a

little fun i don't know if this is this near you you ever hear of

the woody show i think it's a morning radio show but

the woody show is taking its show on the road literally by

recording live from cabo and then doing it again on january

thirteenth at the grand opening of a raising cane's location

the takeaway here isn't what they talked about it's where they showed up

from a destination broadcast to a brand activation inside a

chicken restaurant this is a perfect example of how live

podcasting and radio are blending into experiential

media when shows leave the studio and meet audiences where

they are vacation spots retail openings community

spaces the podcast becomes part of the event

instead of just something playing in. The background huge fan

of this huge fan of this and i i'll get back to

podcasting in a minute but like raising canes like they

they just did one with a collab with snoop i think it was at some

football stadium i can't remember which one i saw just a clip of it but

they just did one with snoop raising kings is a great brand

and and to be working with and when you think about a collaboration like this

i don't know if anybody's doing it you'll have to you'll have to correct me

if they are or are not because i don't know but when i when i'm

like man going to cabo and doing this next thing you're gonna see if somebody's

not already doing it is the cruises so like just like the

rockers they do cruises they do tours like the the rockers

like i mean ll cool day has a cruise like the rock the bells

cruise or something like that like i can see it now who's got the

podcasting cruise and there's going to be whoever that your favorite podcaster

is going to cruise with them like i see it happening it's giving

genius i'm all in let's put. We should put that together

twenty twenty seven here we come there we go. I

love it but it's given and i don't know if again

people want to connect ultimately and the other thing that i'd say

about that is that it's not just connecting with the

podcast it's not just connecting with the host so i don't think we brought this

up so i'll i'll kind of just briefly bring this up is

that it's really the community that forms around the show

shell so i'll give you an example so our our brand mission

matters a lot of the people that that that

that listen to our show they happen to be like minded they're a certain level

of entrepreneur a lot of times they're from certain demographics a lot of

times they're in certain industries and when they come together for a

live in person like thing a function we normally put

a certain amount of time to networking and we might even add

like some other things in there to get the audience talking to each other as

well and it becomes a of course the show of

watching the of watching what's happening so what happens is they meet

other like minded people in that audience and then what do

you think happens the next time that that we have a live in person

event they want to come see the interview they want to see the like who's

being interviewed of course and they want that part of the experience but then they

have that emotional connection oh man last time i went to this event i met

this person and this person and that person and now a community

starts to build build and that community is really the core

fan base of your show and ultimately like the

stronger that community becomes the stronger your show becomes

and the larger and the different types of opportunities that you're going to

get invited to because when they invite for example a

particular person to to cover an

event or to law or to be part of a conference

if if it's it's powerful if you have obviously good numbers a good

show you're going to reach your audience that's one thing but if you can be

known for getting invited and your community shows up too

and that helps sell tickets that's a whole different value

proposition and that's something to strive for

yeah that. Community connection it it's almost so

undervalued with business owners they they think of customers i think in terms of

mailing list but if you start to put events together where you're

connecting people one on one like they met somebody at the previous

conference and that's the reason they came back maybe they do like your business

but that community that you help foster and help build that

almost becomes bigger than the business and everybody puts you

at the center of that and that you can't buy that with advertising

nothing will nothing will replace that than you being there present

with your customers customers building that community it's it's

invaluable to be able to do something like that yeah

and our last one today we're going to higher education

this is when a podcast becomes the institution to

celebrate its fiftieth episode the startup cornell podcast

recorded a special live show during the twenty twenty five

eclectic convergence conference at the cornell tech

in new york city capturing founders operators and

alumni in the moment rather than in isolated

interviews by embedding the podcast directly into a conference

experience this episode shows how live recording elevates a

show from content to institutional memory

instead of chasing downloads startup cornell used

a milestone episode to document community reinforce

credibility and turn a campus event into a lasting

media asset exactly how live podcasting can

scale trust over time how incredible is

that and you know we don't think about necessarily

higher education doing podcasts but they're doing these in

droves we almost have a story every week about fordham

university cornell we've penn state university we've had

all these colleges colleges really branching out from traditional

media and these small conferences that they would have

internally on campus to these new media

events where they're live streaming they're recording podcast episodes

and they're sharing them with faculty they're sharing them with the students

and they're building something more than just the classroom

lecture yeah. I love it and

anything that has to do when it comes to education i'll give a plug to

grow growing our future podcast that's hosted by aaron

alejandro he's the he's the executive director of the

texas ffa so future farmers of america and

i've been working with them we've been producing this show and i think going on

four years or so there they got a ton of episodes and i actually go

out and i do live podcasting at their at their state at their

texas state event and i don't know i probably through the

years i think i've been doing it for about four years now and i've probably

done i don't know a couple hundred episodes there like live in

person and what what they've done is they've also

so speaking of the education side of it for those of you that aren't aware

of what ffa is it's the largest youth organization in the country i

think there's around nine thousand chapters and somewhere around a million

members i could be a little off my numbers but i do know it's the

largest youth organization in the country and ton of chapters ton

of influence and a ton of good they're doing and they're really

training our future leaders years in this country and it's

it's it goes beyond even though it's named future farmers of

america it goes beyond farming i mean their tech anything that's

related to our food food security production

i mean they're in everything but just for some context for people that don't

know exactly what that is but they even took it a step

further which i found super interesting they actually have turned

their texas ffa so it's called the growing our future

podcast they've actually

created curriculum out of their episodes

and it's actually distributed to students in schools

and that was done so they've done that very systematically to their

students and they're teaching leadership skills and they've had just this

amazing catalog of content they've put out and

they've really created and put it into the education system

all from a podcast cast so and that's so when i

see like the use cases for where this could go for academia and

otherwise to me it's beautiful because it's the most authentic

most authentic content you're gonna you're gonna really get in my opinion

and so the types of people that they bring on the show on

their particular show and and the type of content they're bringing to their kids

and to or they call them members i should say members it's

it's invaluable and it's one of a kind and the kids are interested because they

can listen to the show they they know who the people are and now they

also are working through the curriculum so if you think about active

learning man what's better than that could you imagine if when you went to school

you got to like listen to a podcast episode and your

assignment that day or for that or for that particular time was

listening to a particular entrepreneur or somebody in your field that

you cared about that'd be awesome yeah that. Wasn'T even

a thing i could consider it back in the nineteen hundreds when i was in

college college but that that really engages the students

and to have a podcast that's about something

that you're studying something that you're learning about and passionate about i mean i

could just see how much more that would have drawn me into my studies

having these lectures from these professionals or experts in my field

you can't replace that. With with anything yeah and then that

for that to be your curriculum like come on like what's our next episode what's

our next lesson i'm in let's. Go let's go

i gotta tell you Adam this was so much fun

i was so excited when we connected i we saw i saw

this date on the calendar but the level that you brought

tonight and the the way this you got my mind

thinking i am so grateful for the chance to spend this

time together the i have so many ideas now i want to get off stage

and i may start another program podcast just being influenced by you tonight

but one last time before we go let's let everybody know about

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