Live Podcast Takeovers: Real Stories of Fans, Fundraisers, and Experiential Media with special guest Brian Ortega
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Live Podcast Takeovers: Real Stories of Fans, Fundraisers, and Experiential Media with special guest Brian Ortega

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The only live news podcast about

podcasting from the stage.

The only live news podcast about

podcasting from the stage.

The only live news podcast about podcasting from the

stage. I've got an incredibly special guest joining me today, Brian

Ortega. Brian, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me,

Jeff. I'm very excited to be a part of this

awesome Poduty and the news

broadcast. It almost rolls right off the tongue. It's hard to imagine

that you're not even saying it.

Brian, tell us a little bit about yourself. We were having a little witty pre

show banter where just an impressive automotive

career, a 12 year career already. But some of the things

you accomplished at where you work in Valley Hi Toyota. Maybe

we'll cut in a little commercial right here. But tell us a little bit about

Brian Ortega and some of the things you do in automotive. Hey, what's going

on guys? I'm Brian Ortega from California,

home of the World Series champ, Los Angeles Dodgers.

I've been like Jeff said, I've been at Valley Hi Toyota for about

12, 13 years and just

took Valley High Kia, kind of doing the creative stuff there as well

last year. So some interesting times. We do a

lot of things, community events. Actually this Monday I'll be

picking up some turkeys and delivering to a homeless shelter

and you know, just always trying to come up with some creative content

that's not boring. You know, we both work in

automotive. It's kind of how we've connected over the years and we've shared the stage

a few times and just had always having a good time,

always joking, always riffing off each other and you

know, trying to push. I don't know if we push each other, but we share

ideas a lot of times like, hey, how'd you do this? How'd you do that?

And it's. Automotive is a great community for

networking and, and just meeting other people and we're part of a

great community that, that shares ideas and if, if you have a problem,

you know, chances are somebody's going to pop in and help you. And that's, that's

really the automotive community that we're part of. Yeah,

it's, it's really cool, you know, and we have our, you know, Nathaniel

Grecklick who's you know, one of the, the top, the big three like us,

within us and, and then we are able to, you know, we

have a whole different community where we all, like you said, share ideas,

come and banter, maybe push each

other to strive even harder to

produce some great stuff. So awesome. We've got some

stories coming your way, and we started this podcast as a way to, you know,

bring people together and talk about what's happening in the world

of live podcasting. And o', Brien with some of our stage experience,

some of our speaking experiences, I think we got six great stories in here. I

even snuck in one automotive one. But we started this podcast

because these events are happening. They're happening all over the country, all over the world,

and they're probably happening in your backyard. You may even not even be aware

of it. This is our 31st episode already,

and if I tell you we have six stories in every show, that's

180 stories about live podcasting that we've covered

in the last, what, four or five months that we've been on the air here.

And it's not growing. It's getting faster and faster.

I have a backlog of stories that we can't even get to. I started

publishing them where people were talking about the future of podcasting as live.

And I'm just so proud to be a part of this, showcase, this theater

what's possible, but not only show you what we're doing here in Pittsburgh,

but show you that this is possible in your own backyard.

There's bars and libraries and restaurants

and small community centers that are looking for activities.

And if you have a podcast or you have some sort of entertainment

mindset, there's a place for you, I think, to perform wherever you're

at. And now, without

further ado, let me grab the clicker. Let's get into

that first story. We got three

Amigos, three grand and three kids to Disney,

Cork City's fan favorite show. The Other Three Amigos podcast

proved that live podcasting can move mountains, raising

over €3,000

at their first ever live event and sending three sick kids to

Disneyland parks. Held at Metropole Hotel before the

FAI cup final, the night brought supporters together

for laughs, football talk, and pure community spirit.

The charity's chairman said the donations will fully fund three kids trips next

year. And the podcasters say this is just the beginning of more

charity collaborations. It's the perfect example how passionate

fan base plus an in person experience can create a

real, measurable impact. And this is one of those stories

that almost right out of our playbook. Like, we love

live events. We think live events elevate podcast shows. But

here's podcasters. These three amigos that brought a community

together to do something good for the community. They had

a little fundraiser and they were just able to have an

amazing night and experience that you can't get when you just download an MP3

file to listen to a podcast. You're able to I think experience this in

real time and have this community style

event where you're doing good, you're giving back. What were

some of your takeaways, Brian? Well, I'm just interested

to see where they're from calling themselves amigos. But

it's not Mexico, that's for sure. And if it

was in America, I don't know if 3,000, what

euros or maybe equals to maybe 4,000

if in California that get them to, to

Disneyland. But that's the point, right? Yeah, I think

he gets one kid into Disney for $3,000.

Exactly. But you know what, it just goes to show, you know

when you put community together with, with the purpose,

I mean sky's the limit on what you can do and if you can

get buy in from, from locals and just build a

collaboration, I mean it's, it's, it's good because it's, it's a win

win type of situation. Yeah, you get to get out

of a house, your money that you paid for the ticket gets to go towards

something that's very important that gives an experience to a kid that may

not get that experience. And you're with people who also

care about the community. You're fill, you're part of an audience of

charitable people who care about these causes and

you get them. You actually get, you get to get out of your house, get

off the doom scrolling and sit with people

in your, in your neighborhood, in your community. That's just a great way I think

to bring people together and, and to do something good.

I, I really think this is, is going to be a model,

you know, to, to get people out there in, in

for a purpose and to do great things. So yeah,

kudos to them. It's a, it's a great idea.

Awesome. Let's go to story

number two. If you host it, they will come and they'll

bring friends. This comes to us from Frank

Rassiopi on Medium. A massive roundup of

live podcast success stories is putting one myth to

Reese to rest. You don't need a giant audience

to pack a room. Just a great concept and the courage to try

it. From the horror comedy show, another effing horror

podcast. Selling out spooky weekend events to speak

fests, turning Funeral museums into podcast

playgrounds to massive arena shows like kill Tony

and Dimension 20 dominating Madison Square Garden's calendar.

Live podcasting has officially gone mainstream. Even

small indie shows are thriving at hotels, nightclubs and

conventions, proving that niche or niche topics can

attract super fans who become long term listeners.

With milestone tours, crossover events, and ticket prices

climbing as high as $500, the

message is clear. Live podcasting isn't just viable,

it's one of the fastest ways to grow an audience in

2025. We'll let you take this one first,

Brian. Wow. I watched that

Kill Tony on, on Netflix. And for them to

fill a stadium, you know, with

a bunch of people, it's, it's huge. Right? Because it's, it's

now like live ComicCon, right? You're, now, you're doing some,

some things with a, a particular niche audience. I don't know what

niche. Niche. Where are we gonna go? I don't know.

Yeah, but I think that's a great idea. I mean, there's, there's, it's a cultural

shift, right? And, and we're kind of seeing that this is

super normal. What's the other one with Jason Baitman and, and

those guys? Smartless. Smartless, yeah. And they're,

they're traveling around and you have

everybody sitting in the audience and, and partaking in a podcast.

It's crazy. Yeah, they did, they did a tour. I think they even have an,

a Hulu documentary about their first tour for Smart List. And

we did a story a couple weeks ago. They're coming to the Hollywood bowl,

which I think is close. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go.

I think I'm gonna attend that. That'd be great. And,

and one of the things that we talk about here is when you see a

podcast live, you get a whole nother perspective about that

show. You get to see how they react to their fans, how they react

in the moment, how they think about questions they're asked. You don't

see any of that when you just listen to a podcast passively in the

background or on your morning commute, you really

get a whole new level of understanding and appreciation

being in the room with them. You may listen to it and feel like you're

in the room, but when you're actually in the room, it becomes so

surreal. Like I am sharing this moment with these people,

creating this one of a kind entertainment experience

that'll never be recreated again to be in a live podcast.

They don't do that show next week. They do a Whole new show. So you

get to experience history. You get to experience one moment in time with

that show. It, I think it just brings you closer to those

hosts. Well, and the fact that, I mean, we started you were looking

at the grand scale, but if we're going to talk about, like yours is the

perfect example, it's somewhere that's small, that's, you

know, cozy. And I mean, if they're taking

nightclubs or, or, you know, coffee houses or something like that,

and then you're bringing like minded individuals in there to,

you know, to participate. Yeah, you're, like you said, it's, it's totally

different every single time. It's not like you're watching a, an

actual event or something that's been staged, like whatever they're working

on. It's, it's in real time. Yeah, you get to see

the art created in the, in the moment. And it's. And not even though my

business model is similar to comedy clubs, a comedian

is working on new material all the time and trying new things out, but they're

going to refine an act over the course of many, many nights,

and that act becomes more and more part of their show.

Podcasting is in the same model where we have these clubs now, like

the Paduti Podcast Theater. But when you see that show,

like Brian said, it's only that moment, it's

only that episode and it's, it's a different

thing. Like it's not, you're not going to see that again. If you go follow

them on the road to Cleveland or Baltimore, that's going to be a completely

different show again. So the live podcasting is just such

this unique art form that's really gaining traction

mainstream. I mean, this might give me an

idea to do something because I've talked to

management about doing something because we're always talking sports and you

know, we do the fantasy stuff and why not do a podcast

at the dealership? I mean, we got some space.

We didn't have some cars for a while for the Toyota, if you guys

know, you know, but you got some space there. And

we definitely do some type of podcast. I mean, we do our car

giveaway and actually I've done that before where we've, we've

invited some finalists to the dealership and

this was years ago, but in the similar vein, they're

could be something done like this. Definitely. Yeah. You could bring

in Ohtani and his translator and talk about sports

betting. There it is.

There's the jealousy from a Pittsburgh Pirates fan. There's A Pirates

fan who hasn't had a super or we

haven't even had a chance to go to the world series since 91. So yeah,

really, I'm just bitter and old and jealous.

So let's see if this next story gets us in a little bit of trouble.

We're going to Life After Cars

starts with a live show. The hit podcast the War on

Cars took its message on the road, ironically

to San Diego last Sunday for a live show at the Adams

Avenue Theater celebrating the release of their new book, Life

After Cars. Hosted by Bike San Diego and the

Bicycle Coalition of San Diego county, the event doubles

as a fundraiser to support safer, more accessible car free and car

like transportation in the city. With a 5pm bar

opening and a room full of urbanists, bike advocates and

city planning fans, it's poised to be both a community

meetup and a rally for rethinking how cities move.

All proceeds go towards making San Diego a better place

to travel without four wheels. Now this

one's a little ironic coming, isn't it? Right. Let's

drive to San Diego and talk about not

driving. So yeah, yeah. Obviously, Brian, I have a little

bit of a skewed perspective of being car centric, but

that's just also the layout of America. It is a car

centric place. On the flip side, we talk about

getting out of your house, getting off the phone and coming to events like this

at the podcast theater or going to see a comedian or a music act

and doing things that aren't always car related.

And I think in this case having a safer space for even kids

to ride bikes. Especially with the rise of E bikes. E

bikes are getting out of control. Kids are getting injured

and riding them in ways that they shouldn't. But I don't think

it's out of the realm for a community to have a conversation about how can

we do activities in a safer place, in a safer manner. How

can we coexist with cars and still be able to, you know, ride our bike

down the street to the grocery store? You know, how do we do that in

a safer manner? I think it's a fair conversation to have.

Oh, especially, especially in San Diego.

Yeah. I mean, it's probably one of the most

beautiful places in the US Is San Diego.

But yeah, definitely. So it's interesting, right,

because you have this event where you're launching a, a book

and then they're partaking in some libations

and, you know, all the proceeds are going towards that.

So another one of those things where it's Just not about

building a brand. It's like an engine. Right. Like it, it's

driving other things where one week it's, it's a bike,

you know, and the next it's maybe some community activity and

then you're releasing a book and so it can definitely spread out

from there. Yeah, we've seen this a couple times in the last couple

weeks where if you are releasing another product, in this case it's a book.

A lot of times you would go on morning radio or morning

television shows and get interviewed about your book. But what we're starting to

see is the writers and authors of this book, of these books,

they're starting to create immersive events. And this one is because they

have a podcast as well, the War on Cars. They're going around

and setting up live event nights where they're going to record their

podcast and it's coinciding with the launch of

their book. So this live event is also a way to

promote and get their book in front of people.

Yeah, if you're teaming up with local organizations or

other businesses, I mean, it's just a great model. When we

do, for instance, our, our car giveaways, I'll get

local businesses to donate and then we, we announce

the winners live. So we

lead up to it and during the broadcast people

are able to win like pizzas or, you know, or

some food or free car wash or things like that. And

I mean, so it's a win, win, win. Right? The, the business gets its name

out there, somebody wins a car and then we're, we're

facilitating that. So it's a, it's a great concept.

Yeah, it's a great way of tying the community and your event too, with giving

away a car is the grand finale. But you have all these little things leading

up to it. I think you do live streams even prior to the giveaway

where you're really promoting it and teasing it up. Yeah, I won't tease that up,

but it's been few and far between right now, just, you

know, wearing so many hats. But yeah, yeah, it's definitely something that people

anticipate. So a podcast type of

event and you get people to get your product and whether it's new

swag or things like that, it's a, it's a way for, for everybody to come

out and participate. Awesome. Well, speaking of coming

out and participating, our next stories from

gallery audio to theater phenomenon. The

Minneapolis Institute of Art turned its modest podcast the

Object into a sold out theatrical event by doing what

most museums Struggle with leaning into creativity,

personality, and full on edutainment. After

realizing early attempts at talking into a mic in a

gallery were dead on arrival, writer Tim

Gring rebuilt the podcast as an immersive

narrative series. And years later, the museum finally

asked the big question, could this work? On stage,

the answer was a resounding yes. With celebrity

guests, audience quizzes, theatrical moments, and nearly 300

seats filled for its Dolly episode, the

Object Live transformed a quiet audio show into a

cultural happening. The secret collaboration

across departments, free admission to build superfans,

and the bold idea that museums should surprise people,

not bore them. And I first saw this and I was, what a

great way to bring museums alive. Almost like Night at the Museum.

The. The movie where you're going in and it comes

to life, you're hearing these stories, you're seeing a museum. A museum at night is

already a very interesting place to be. If you've ever had the chance to just

see museums in the dark, it is a whole different experience.

But now lay in a free event with community,

free admission to the community and these storytelling

events, I, I think you just get a whole new experience and

perspective about museums. Yeah, I mean,

who would have th Right. Because the only time, like you

really go to museum, I mean, to be honest, you know, it's been a

while for me, but you know, going for field trips and like that

from school. But to turn the museum, I mean, they admitted

it, it was, you know, fairly boring. You know, it's a, it's a one facing

thing. But for it to turn into a podcast and

bring people out and for a, you know, real

experience and like it said, edutainment. Right. You're entertaining

them, but you're also educating them at the same time. That's.

It's a, it's a great idea for sure. Yeah. If you have the space, you

got 300 seats to fill, you have a free event and

you. I don't think Dolly could get 300 people out to an

event if he was alive. Well, they did. And it

was a packed house. And in Minneapolis too. It wasn't even wintertime yet,

so, you know, people were going in their free will, not even trying

to escape the cold. Yeah, I mean, I wonder what type of snacks

they had because. That'S the deal breaker.

What are you serving? Is the nacho bar open tonight? I

wanted to get a hot pretzel. Yeah. Some of that

cheese, maybe like a. Dripping clock cookie,

you know, something like that. I don't know. We have a place out here called

Eaton park and they do smiley face cookies. I bet they could do that.

Which are just round sugar cookies with two dots and a mouth.

And they could do a Salvador Dali melting face cookie

would be awesome. Definitely. Yeah, you're welcome.

Lets go international. We're going to Creator Week in Macau

where the Internet meets real life. Creator Week Macau

2025 transformed the entire city into a creator

powered festival where business, culture and creativity

collided for five days straight with influencers,

filmmakers, digital entrepreneurs and marketing giants from Google,

Meta and Mr. Beast Network. The event positioned

creativity as the new global currency and Macau

as a major creative hub. Beyond conference halls, international

creators learned with local ambassadors to explore heritage

streets, film collaborations and produce a flood of short

form content that showcased the city as a living studio.

Between wellness workshops, hands on creative training,

live podcasting, recordings and nightly performances,

Creator Week wasn't just a conference. It was a full scale

cultural exchange, proving that the future of the creator economy

is experiential, cross cultural and

deeply human. Yeah, why don't you

go to this in Macau? Geez, I gotta renew my

passport. I'm in the process of going through. I let it, I let it lapse.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat there. But man, this is what

Gary Vaynerchuk's been saying, you know, the whole time, right? They, that

creators are, are the currency. And the fact that a

whole basic country turned, or the city turned

it into Creator Week. I mean, just imagine how

much content is coming out of there and you know, the,

the relationships that are being built. Especially you know, you got

Meta and who else was there?

You got Google, Mr. Beast Network, Mr. Beast,

Gez. All right, that's a trifecta right there.

And that's one of the things we've been noticing. If you invite these creators, they're

probably talking about it leading up to the event, then they're probably

live streaming, taking photos while they're at the event and then

they're probably talking about it after the event. So if you're hosting

an event, a meetup, something around your community,

invite the people who are influencing that community and

you can multiply the reach that your message will get. Because

these influencers, podcasters, need content all the time.

And if you provide them and feed their lips for leading up during

and after, you now have a promotion team working for your event,

that can only build momentum for your next year.

I mean, in all honesty, us as

working in the dealership community, I mean,

I think I would rather do something like this than send out a

mailer. You know, you're going to spend that much money, you know, pay a

couple local influencers to promote an event.

And I've, and to bring that up, I've done that with a couple

of the car giveaways. We have a, a few little influencers in

our community and teamed up with them and

kind of got the word out. You know, one year we did a tik tok

dance challenge. Another year it was a like

somebody that eats food and she promoted, she had a nice

YouTube channel and even before that. So it's

definitely a way to get the word out to a different audience. Right.

I'm no spring chicken, so I, I don't tailor,

you know, I have a Facebook kind of audience where we're

trying to get to a Instagram, tick tock, new generation

type PM of people.

Did you ever do the Harlem Shake?

No, no, we did the

Tebow. We did the Tebow Challenge.

And you know, as part of this being creative, you

having creators there, promoting the event, documenting the event,

one of the things that this event had that they featured as part of

the entertainment were live podcast recording. So

you know, keep note, if you're in a certain industry and you have a

podcast about that industry, there are probably conventions,

meetups, groups that are looking for

entertainment and those conventions are more and more turning towards

live podcasting as part of the entertainment of

that convention. So keep that in mind. You reach out to these

conventions that are in your, in your niche niche and talk

to them and offer your services, say, hey, I can do a live podcast. I'd

love to be on the floor. You may get a pass, you may get

even some travel accommodations to have you there as

part of the event. So don't discount doing your

podcast at events that are in your industry.

Yeah, definitely. And, or find a place like PTI and

you know, there you go. Let's go to

our last story already. Can you believe it?

We're going to the guitar podcasters who turned

their studio into a stage. A guitar school in

northern England gave us one of the most honest behind the scenes accounts of

doing a live podcast. Walking through everything from gear

chaos to audience magic, the Kirklees

Guitar School podcast, backed by a thriving 4,000

member Facebook community and busy in person music school

decided to take their show on stage, recreating their entire

studio set and recording two episodes for a live

paying audience. From hauling amps they call

tone hedge, to routing audio from rodecasters

and interfaces into a pa, to handling guitars, nerves

and handwritten audience questions, the host discovered that even

a Modest sized show can motivate fans to travel hundreds of miles,

even as far as Spain, just to be in the room. Their

big lesson. A live podcast isn't perfect, but it's

powerful, humbling, and absolutely worth doing again.

This one was one of those ones where, you know,

we're talking about, you hear me talk about this for 30 other episodes, six stories

a week, and what, what goes into making that happen. And

they showed you loading the gear in the car and, and setting things up at

the podcast space where they were going to do the show. And

this is just proof that your podcast can be anywhere. It doesn't

have to be in your mom's basement or your home studio. You can get out

of the house and take your podcast on the road, no matter what

it's about. Well, to be able to get that many

people, you know, it just shows that it's, it's your community,

right? Just, you don't need to have a million followers. You can

just have those few that are dedicated and devoted

to a particular, you know, in this instance, you know,

with the music and I don't know how good that music sounded, but

if you can get somebody to fly from

Spain to, to attend a podcast, I mean, that

just shows that you're, that your community is, is thriving and then

you guys have some devoted fans. So that's great.

Yeah, I love the, the DIY mentality. I'm a, I'm an old skateboarder, old

punk rock guy. So, like, DIY is kind of the belief

of everything I do is, hey, okay, yeah, there are things or services

that do that. But what if you figured out how to do it yourself? And

these people, these two podcasters who took their show on the road,

they didn't know, you know, they, they figured it out. They loaded up the car,

they committed to the gig, they showed up, they, they carried

Tone Hedge up the stairs to set up the amps

and they just did it. They went out into the community, into their

neighborhood and put on a live show with paying guests. I don't know if

you caught that part of the story, but they also got paid to

record their podcast, which is the unsung hero

of doing these small independent shows.

Yeah, there's a fact, but I don't. Tonehenge. That's kind of

cheesy. But hey, I could just imagine the, the people

who attended. That's a shout out to them

in, in England. Awesome.

Serving tea and crumpets and whatnot. So.

Well, Brian Ortega creating international incidents, which

means it's Time for the plugs. Brian Ortega. Tell

us what, where people can connect with you, meet up and book you

for their stage. Oh, wow. Yeah, just I'm

very active

on LinkedIn. I post a lot of the content that we

create at the dealership throughout the years.

And it just goes to show, you know, you can

make some evergreen stuff, something that, that lasts and then you can

find new audiences. So definitely. Or you can go to brianj.

Ortega.com I post a lot of the things that we have there in

to one area, so definitely go there. There's a way that

you can, you know, book me on there as well. So keep in contact.

We will do that. I'll have Brian's links in the show notes along with all

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two nights so they can finish 2025 stronger than ever.

We've got the Jingle Bell Jam Talent show. This is

just announced December 20th from 6 to 8. This is a

fundraiser for the Knead Cafe. It's one of these

cafes. It's pay what you can. If you can't afford a meal, they will

provide a meal in exchange for some sort of service if you do.

And you're welcome to volunteer. They feed the volunteers as well. It's a

tremendous cafe. I believe it's founded by Bon Jovi. I

have to go into the history, but you can come in if you like to

participate. We're just asking for canned goods that'll go to the food bank.

The ticket sales will go to the Knead Cafe. So if you, if you

do buy a ticket, feel free to bring in canned goods as well. We

will donate all that to the food bank and to the Knead Cafe.

We've got the audio fiction primer. If you're interested in doing a podcast.

But maybe not what I do here with Brian on stage, you can

do a storytelling podcast. A lot of people in

Hollywood are doing this type of format where they're instead of

spending all the money or shopping around a script,

they're just creating the script as this audio.

I'm thinking of the wrong word, but they're using audio

podcasting as a way to proof of concept to show that this is

what the show can be. While Jessica Sutton is going to teach us all about

audio fiction, podcasts, storytelling podcast and how to

bring that to life. How to bring your story to life in a podcast

format. That's in December, right after Christmas. The Saturday

after Christmas, we've got the humorous podcast coming

in March. They're coming down from Connecticut or New Haven somewhere up

in there. And they're going to do a live podcast on the stage.

We'll have that in 2026. And that's

it for me and Poduty and the News. Brian, thank you so much

for joining us and the witty banter pre show.

Thanks, Jeff, man, kudos to you, man. You're living your

dream and I'm so proud of you. So thank you for having me on,

man. Well, thank you. Thank you. That means I just have one more question for

you. What time is it?

Say.

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