Local Voices Lead: The Rise of Live Podcasting With Jacob Espinoza of Local Social Club
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Local Voices Lead: The Rise of Live Podcasting With Jacob Espinoza of Local Social Club

I got that song in my head. It's a different song,

but anyway. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Poduty and the News for Tuesday, April 21,

2026. I'm Jeff Revilla, your host. We've got six

stories about live news podcasting headed your way.

I've got Jacob Espinoza joining me. Local social club.

What's happening in Salem? Jacob, do you know what time it is?

It's time for the news. What time is.

What time is it?

The only live news podcast about

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Jacob Espinoza, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me,

man. This is pretty cool. Oh, thank you. Thank you. So excited to have you

here. Been looking at some of the things you did. You have built something really

incredible with what's happened in Salem and the local social club.

Tell us a little bit about, you know, how did you get started? What was

your interest in. In creating these networks of bringing people together?

Yeah, I mean, I think you're. You're seeing it a lot with what you're doing,

but there's just a shift in media right now. People don't really

subscribe to newspapers anymore. They aren't listening to

radio, and they don't want to pay for news at

any level. In majority, I think the data shows, like, 14% of people

are willing to pay for news at all. So you have 86% of

your population who's just completely uninformed, unless you have

someone in your town who's stepping up and providing information on social

media or doing a free newsletter or. Or a live podcast.

Was that something that you were early to. Because I've seen that model now. You

know, it seems to be something common. And the way that you build it up,

the way that you're talking about Salem and bringing that core news

product together and becoming that media center in the town.

When did you get started doing all that? So it's been almost two

years, which is wild. Wild to say, but, yeah, we saw

growth quick. I mean, I think the first three, four months, we're at 20,000 followers.

We have 180,000 people in our city, for context. So huge

market saturation. We're at 42,000 followers on

Instagram, Facebook. We're like 15 TikTok, we're at

6, and we're still growing over there. But huge, huge

potential for the. For this type of a product and for people

to make a living, to market their Business,

whatever it might be, when you become the go to person in your community,

there's. There's lots of advantages there. Yeah, it's a great way to

become that pillar. And then from that you can branch off all these

other avenues, these events, advertising,

promoting other businesses. There's. There's a myriad of things that you

can do and anything that really surprised you, you know, once you started

a business like this, once you started becoming the media of the town,

it's just been fun how supportive it's been. I mean, we definitely try to keep

things very positive. We highlight the positive things that are happening in our

community. We really live off the motto that the things that are recognized

are repeated. So people that are taking chances, making things happen in Salem,

we want to make sure that we can shine a light on them and

just. Just been a lot of fun. I think that's been the. It really has

been a blessing as well. I think whenever you're putting yourself out there on the

Internet, building an audience, you never quite know the opportunities that

are going to present themselves. And I'm just, just being

grateful to build great relationships and make some cool things happen in Salem.

Yeah. Which I think makes you a perfect guest for what we do on this

show where we talk about bringing people together for social

events, for podcasting events and performing shows live.

You're seeing that happen on a local level. And you also are the

founder of Local Social Club. And tell us a little bit about that. How can

people connect with you and learn more about local Social Club? Yeah. In

local Social Club, we are helping other content creators

start local Instagram channels and monetize.

We have a lot of people who start started a month ago and are already

getting their first brand deals, finding ways to find sponsors,

helping people understand what type of content to create that is most engaging.

And the nice thing about it is I have a community of people who are

all trying different things. And when something works, we're quick to share it with

the rest of the group. And things that work in one city generally work pretty

well in another. So we're all doing a good job helping each other grow,

challenging each other. And it's exciting helping

people one just build great relationships, supporting their communities. We're in

a time where people are extremely isolated and lonely, and a

big part of that is we just don't know what's happening in our city. We

used to have, you know, 40 people in Salem working at our local

newspaper. That was probably 25 years ago, but at this point,

it's pretty Stripped down. We've got like five reporters and there's 180,000

people in our community. So it's just not enough people to really

tell all of the stories and share the news that's happening. So we want to

provide people, we want to help people to understand the businesses they can support, the

nonprofits they can support, and the events that are out there so they have a

chance to get out and meet people in Salem. And I love

being lean and mean and being able to scale on your own

terms and grow the business the way that you want to grow it without having

to answer to some other conglomerate, without having

to worry about all this other structure.

You're really in control. You're creating something that's a unique piece of media

for your local community and really sharing that and investing in the

community and letting the community shine on its own.

Yes, that is it. We are just kind of being the spotlight, the megaphone of

good things that are happening. And we're putting events on as well. You know, I

think one of the advantages of being a local content creator is that it's

really easy to engage with your audience and,

you know, in person events. There's a huge need for it right now.

Yeah, you're speaking our language because we are about live events.

This is what we're going to talk about over these next six stories and the

best way people want to connect with you. Find out more about local social club.

Where do you usually send people? Yeah, the

JacobSpinoza.com is a great place to go. You can

schedule a call right there as a link on the page. You can use a

schedule a call and love to learn more about what you're working on and, you

know, see if it's a good fit for us to support you. Awesome. All those

links will be in the show notes. We have a crew page, too, where anybody

who's been on the show gets inducted into the Poduty and the Crew. And

you'll find all the links for all my guests, all future episodes that they

come on. Jacob, you're welcome to come back in the future and do

other shows. All those links will be there, attached to your account, to your profile

there. And anybody that wants to see it and connect with you later on, check

it out at news.poduty.com Jacob, are you

ready for our stories? We're ready. Let's dig in. We got the

first one and people love when I pick stories of places that I can't

pronounce. So this one's from the Romania Insider and

And I'm going to guess on this one. The Souffle de Romania Festival

returns the April 25th and 26th, and it's

designed to recreate the feel of a traditional Roman

Romanian village. You've got artisan workshops, folk dances,

local food, and live performances from artists like Thea

Rose and Damian Dragici. It's free to

attend, open to the public, and expected to be their biggest year

yet. But layer into all of this is a live

podcast recording featuring a writer and a journalist

happening right alongside the festival experience. This is where

live podcasting fits in perfectly. The audience is already there,

the energy is already built. The podcast isn't trying to pull people

in. It becomes part of something people are already

excited to attend. And we see this time and time again

anymore, especially in 2026, where, where when you go to

event, they used to have magicians and musicians and

comedians as part of the entertainment. But more and

more you're seeing podcasting creeping in, storytelling

creeping in these panels where you used to go to a conference and see a

panel of four people just talk about something. Well, they're switching that

out with podcasts now. And here's an example of a festival in

Romania where part of the entertainment for the crowd

is a live podcast. And this is where I really see the future of

podcasting going, is those real life experience, like with

Jacob's building, with what's Happening Salem. You're showcasing all

those events in the city. Well, these types of events are happening at

festivals, conferences, and here's one happening in Romania.

Yeah, I think you have the right people that bring the right personality to it

and it can add an element. I think

we'll see a lot of this type of a hybrid approach. Right, where you can

visit the event, but you also have the online version for people that can't

make it as a way to create some of that fomo. But I think it

does take the right personality, somebody that's going to be entertaining enough and

engaging enough to get people's attention and then keep

people's attention. Because as we both know, attention spans are pretty short.

And, you know, you don't know when someone's going to enjoy that live,

but you want to give them reasons to stick around. And, you

know, not only that, but share it with their friends as well. Yeah, we often

see even like side events or sub events within an event

or side stages having podcasts as part of it

too. So look around when you're going out to conferences and

festivals and even music festivals now, there are

side stages Doing podcasts and interviewing the music act. So

podcasting is happening everywhere. And if you're interested in

a certain topic or a certain industry, there's probably an event

based around what you're already talking about. You know, use that podcast to

open the doors and get in, maybe get a free pass, maybe record your

show there and interview some industry experts. I really think live events

are really the future for podcasting. And I think that another angle

is just helping the event organizers understand the added

benefit that this provides to their sponsors, where you can kind of create

it as part of the sponsorship package that you'll have a chance to be

featured on this live podcast that's going to be happening at the event.

You can take the clips and share them on social. So it's not just the

exposure at the event, but it's in a lot of the conversation that's happening in

the media created afterwards as well, where they will get that

benefit. Yeah, that's a great way to sell it and even build

momentum towards the next year. You build on that, capture some

of the things that happened that year and use that to promote for the following

year. Use it on your podcast. Use it for. Let the conference.

Use it the end of the event. Use it to promote. That's a win win

all around. You're going to build your podcast in front of a new audience

and in the same time, you're going to help that event build an audience for

next year. Absolutely. We'll go to

story number two from Pod Biz. This comes to us from the Pod Biz

YouTube channel. Jeremy Ems from the Podcast

Marketing Academy. Shared perspective that a lot of people in

podcasting don't talk about. He says the biggest money in podcasting

may not be ads or sponsorships. It's the revenue that never gets

tracked at all. He's talked about small niche shows

that might not have big audiences, but they're driving real business

results behind the scenes. Six and seven figure businesses

built with podcasts that most people have never heard of.

This connects directly to live podcasting. Live

events, live meetups and conferences don't show up in download numbers

either, but they drive real revenue. Ticket sales,

sales, partnerships, relationships, all happened

outside those traditional podcast metrics. And you

hear people talk about my download numbers and you

know how many listens I had. But there are so many other elements, and

you mentioned one already. Jacob, you mentioned packaging up something

as part of a bigger package. If you have a podcast, well, maybe

you have a website. You could sell banner ads. Maybe you're building an Email

list. You could package, you know, a banner, an email list and

your podcast, and that's not going to show up in the download numbers. But

that's a real way for a small podcast to drive real

revenue. Yeah, I think you become the go to voice in

a niche and there's so many different ways to monetize. I feel like podcasts

are just a great way to develop trust with your audience. And

depending on what your, your, your business is,

it's going to kind of decide how much growth potential, how hard it is is

going to be to, to make money. If you're creating content that is in

an industry where people have exposable income or

a will add on or is a industry that will add,

you know, add on to a business's bottom line, you can charge a lot

for that service. So I think a lot of it does kind of depend. I

think if you're doing a lifestyle podcast, it's probably a little bit more challenging to

monetize because people are listening to you for entertainment, but they're not, probably not

listening to you as far as making purchasing decisions. So in that sort of a

world, you're probably, you know, having to grow your audience pretty big. But if you

are, you know, if you have a hundred people who are purchasers at

an organization listening to your podcast, it doesn't

matter that it's only 100, because those are the right hundred people who are listening

and trust you when they're making a decision to buy.

Yeah, we hear so much about this show, drove so many

downloads and drove so many dollars in ad revenue, and that's typically

the watermark that everybody's comparing against. But all the things that

Jacob's mentioning, all the things that we've already talked about with live ticket

sales of merchandise, I'm wearing DJ sky shirt

right now. You have email lists, you have banner ads,

you have all these other ways that really don't get discussed in

what a podcast business is. And the things that Jacob's building with

what's happening Salem, all those little income streams from

one website, people are recreating that with their podcast. It, it is

a media asset that you own and create and control. And you're building

a community and an audience that businesses and

advertisers, they want to tap into that and really connect with your audience.

Yeah, I've really become the voice of Salem. And this is not me saying, this

is what people are telling me. And even though my

size, you know, 40,000 followers is

a fraction of what some of my friends might have in different industries, but

it's consolidated to a specific geographic location. And so if

you're trying to reach people in Salem, Oregon or the surrounding areas

and you want to reach people on Instagram,

I'm going to be the best option for you because currently we have the most

attention know on that platform then with our, our newsletter as

well. So a lot of it is just making sure you're c creating

content that is curated for a specific audience because

it's going to be a lot easier to monetize if you know who you're speaking

to and you know who you're. Who's listening. Yeah, I mean once you build that

up, you know, you can, you can sell posts, you can

sell, you know, sponsorship packages on your website. You have all these

other ways that isn't just what's happening Salem, the content,

but there's all these other connections that you're building through gaining

the trust of that audience for having them come back, for having them trust

you and follow you. You've built a real tangible asset

that you can responsibly monetize. You don't just want to exploit

it and just sell to the highest bidder, but you can definitely

curate and cultivate an audience of raving fans. I

think the other side of that is that we all care about our downloads and

it is a signal of growth, but it's not necessarily the most important or definitely

not the only. Yeah, it's just one. And I think that

there's so many other elements and I think a lot of podcasters just get

focused on that download number but really open your mind, start

to think about what can this really be? It could be much more than just

recording an MP3 file in your home studio and delivering it

to an audience. You can make something so much greater,

100%. Let's keep speaking of making it greater.

I also love stories where traditional media really

embraces new media. And this comes to us from Flamborough. Today,

the CBC is making a big investment in local media in

Hamilton, Ontario with plans to launch a live

weekday morning audio show along with a new weekly

podcast called this is Hamilton. The live show

will feature community interviews, local news, traffic, weather,

real time updates and it'll be available across radio apps and

digital platforms. This is a part of a bigger strategy to build

stronger connections with communities by telling more

local stories. Even at a national level, they're leaning into

live, local and consistent programming. It's not just about

publishing episodes anymore. It's about showing up every day,

being part of the Community and creating content people

rely on. And you can almost imagine why I chose

this story for this episode. Jacob. Yeah. I wonder how

their approach is going to be different than like a traditional, like

TV morning show or radio. Because I feel like a lot of times a

brand will be like, hey, this used to work on the radio. Let's now turn

it into a podcast. And I feel like that never works for

anybody. I feel like you do have to really think about, okay, how

what type of content are people engaging with now? How are

they engaging and figure out a new way to tell

the. The similar stories. I feel like sometimes people try to take the same vehicle

and put it on a different track and it doesn't work. You have to have

the vehicle that's going to work. You can't put a train on a. On a

freeway. It's not going to run right. You gotta. What's the car that's gonna work

on that? Um. And yeah, so it'll be interesting to see

how that comes together. I do love just any new approach to

local news and somebody that wants to innovate and share it. It's just

so much is just the talent behind it. Like, you have to have the right

person that's going to be the. The personality that's going to carry this forward

or it's going to fall flat. It's going to be a lot of production and

nobody's going to watch it. Yeah. While it is a distribution

channel, that doesn't mean it's the right channel for the media. If you've been doing

it for live television or live radio for all

these years, it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to find an audience right away. You've

got to learn how to mold that and craft it so that it is

relevant to a podcast audience. You want to make it so that people want to

tune in and see it anytime. Not just I

missed the live show, I guess I can catch it on the podcast. So

you're right. Like the right train on the wrong tracks.

That could be very something that happens in this situation.

But it looks like they do have some investment into it. They are very local

focused too, which I liked. I thought that was kind of parallel to what you've

been building. Yes. And just to see, like, where can you take this?

How can you build more of these local, you know,

local media companies and see where it goes? CBC is obviously a

large entertainment or media conglomerate in Canada,

but to be able to pull this off at a local level, that's. That's A

new twist. Yeah, I would, I'd be interested to

see, like, because I feel like all of these companies are eventually. And

it's starting to happen already. Like, I've noticed in my area, a lot of the

local reporters now have their own social media

channels. And I'm. I don't think it's a coincidence.

I'm sure there's direction that's, you know, encouraging people to take this.

And so it's, I think right now, like we're seeing

the window closing for somebody to just pick up their phone and

become the voice of their community. Because you're starting to see people like CBC

invest in, you know, a local podcast. You're starting to see a lot of

the legacy media companies invest in having their brand

more present on social and individual creators in their brand

investing on social. So eventually they'll figure

it out. I think there's still a Runway where they're going to start it and

they're going to be really bad at it because they've never done it before. So

there still is chance, there still is the opportunity for people to jump in and

become the voice in their community. But this is just a signal. The window is

definitely closing. Yeah. I often wonder when I see the local

media personality get on social media how much of it

is they really want to do that and how much of it is their manager

is either shopping them around for a new job or they want to get 10%

of some of that YouTube AdSense money. Yeah, they're trying to figure it out. Right.

They're seeing people are making money on Instagram, the attention is there and

they're starting to realize, like, we need to make this change. It's a matter of

survival at this point for us. Yeah, let's keep it going.

Speaking of survival, sci fi, we're going to some sci fi

authors from this comes to us from Fun Cheap San Francisco.

And this free event at the San Francisco Public Library on April

26 brings together SCI fi authors Samantha

Mills and Justin Feinstein for a live reading

audience, Q and A and book signing. It runs from 3 to

5pm Is open to the public with books available for sale and time

built for people to connect after the event. But here's the layer

that matters the most for us. The entire conversation is

being recorded as a live podcast by Soma FM

for later distribution. This is the perfect example of how

content is being captured inside experiences that already exist.

The event is the draw. The podcast is the extension.

And now that moment doesn't just happen once in A room and it lives

on and reaches a larger audience after the fact.

I feel like Sci Fi fans are the perfect audience for

podcasts because they have longer attention spans than most

people. Right? Like they're gonna dig deep into a topic they

probably want to listen to. Like you remember DVDs used to have the

extra cuts where you have like the directors interviews and they would like break down

different scenes in the movie. I feel like you

don't. People don't have the attention span for that type of stuff anymore. Like you

just, you. Nobody wants to watch like the director's cut of a 30 second Instagram

reel that went viral. Maybe, maybe they do, I don't know. But

I feel like the Sci Fi audience, they have this built in attention span where

they probably want to dig deeper and there's probably lots of fun ways for

podcasts to explore that sort of love. All those little

behind the scenes stories. What happened in the making of. Or

you know, the original version of this, the alien was green, but they made them

blue and post production that. All that little, all those little things they get

immersed in and they really dive in. And you're right. An event like this

where you're, you're meeting the author, you're hearing the behind the scenes stories, like,

how did that character come about? All those things I think really do

play well into a Sci Fi audience. I think the big advantage here

for a podcaster is a chance to expand your network

where you might see this event that's coming up and they have this panel of

speakers and there's three people on that panel that you want to build relationships with,

but you don't already. Like, what a cool opportunity to present this

idea to the event organizer. Where, hey, I want to do this

podcast on the side. It's a good added value for

the forum or the people that are on the panel rather, where they have the

chance to also have this content that lives beyond the local

event. But you have the chance to kind of spearhead that and,

and be the face of that podcast and a chance to build some potentially

meaningful relationships. Because in that conversation, not

only are you getting to know that person, but they're getting to know you and

they can start understanding your value, your

experience and your goals in some capacity. And

sometimes there's an opportunity for that person to see, like, hey, this is somebody I

kind of actually want to want to work with more in the future.

Yeah, great way. Especially authors and bookstores. A great way to expand

your audience. Even if you're, you're not familiar with

that author, but you, you visit that bookstore a lot,

you maybe grab a coffee, you pick up new releases and then they, you hear

they're having an event. Just being a lover of books, a

lover of stories that could draw you into this recording and that

podcast and just really open your mind, you know, give you a new

perspective, a new form of entertainment. Yep.

Speaking of entertainment, we're going to go to a podcast where

the tickets are $1795. This is a

conference, a law conference. It's called Human X

2026 in San Francisco is a high level AI

conference with tickets priced at over $2,000,

bringing together more than 6,500 leaders, founders and

investors. And right in the middle of the event, there's a live

podcast being recorded on the floor featuring

ToberLife AI CEO David Schulhoff.

It's a quick 10 minute conversation capturing insights in real time

while the event is happening. But here's the angle. For podcasters,

if a ticket like this feels out of reach, this is your way in.

Events like this need content. They need distribution. They need

ways to extend their reach beyond the room. Your podcast

can be that vehicle. You can show up as media, offer to

record sessions, interview speakers, or create recap content

for the organizers. Instead of paying to attend, you

position yourself as part of the experience. That's the shift. Your

podcast isn't just content, it's access. And

that's, you know, most podcasters will scoff at a seventeen

hundred dollar ticket, but I want to show

podcasters that what you're building has value. And you will see

that events like this, maybe not 1700, but there are plenty of

607, $800 conferences that would love

to have more things happening at. It would love to

share your resources, your assets, your

love for creating media. And that really shows you

that your podcast of what you're creating has value. And I think a lot

of podcasters just kind of record and distribute and then

do it again and don't really think much of it. But when you start

to position yourself in areas where the thing is already

happening that you're already talking about, you can really fit

in there and you'll really see how much value you're creating if

they offer you a free ticket, you know, here's a comp ticket, come on down,

record like, oh my goodness, what I'm creating has a $600

value. That's pretty incredible. And yeah, I think sometimes it's

easy to forget when this, this thing that you're creating. You're also

Developing all of these skills that are extremely valuable. So you

might be looking at your podcast download numbers, and, man, I've been doing this for

a year, and, like, I'm only here, like, why am I not. Why am I

not bigger? And sometimes you can fall into that comparison trap, but you're forgetting

all the relationships that you formed. You're forgetting how much better

of a podcast host you have become. And sometimes it's just

shift. Shifting it a little bit and thinking, okay, what are other ways I can

use these skills? And this is a great advantage of that, right?

Becoming the go to podcast person in a specific industry

where this industry knows, like, hey, we got this event coming

up. This person set up the podcast last time. They did a great

job. The guests loved it, the sponsors loved it. Let's bring them back. And

now maybe the first time around, it's a free ticket, but next time, okay, now

I'm going to charge for it because they've seen the value I bring. They understand

I'm going to deliver. I'm somebody that's talented, but also reliable.

And now you can start monetizing it in that way in addition to getting the

free access. But I think sometimes free access is a great first step that a

lot of creators overlook because they. They do want to

be paid. And we all should, right? We have. If we're creating valuable things, like,

we should be able to monetize that. But sometimes doing that free

work or work in exchange for a trade is a great way for us to

demonstrate our value to a new audience and build new and meaningful

relationships. Exactly. And that's what I loved about that. And

that angle of, here's something I've been creating. I've been working on,

you know, hours of my life every week just to put out this

show. And then all of a sudden, you get validated by being

invited to an event or a conference in exchange for a

ticket. Like, hey, you come do what you do. We're going to give you a

pass. And, you know, that instantly shows that what you're building

is value. What you're building has value. And I just love that idea

for podcasters to have that perspective instead of just like, I got to

do this thing for free for everybody forever. But you'll see

in different ways. There's so many different ways to monetize. And just that little

switch of, oh, my goodness, I got a free ticket, I got an invitation to

a conference. They want me to be there. That's

such an accomplishment that most people,

95% of the people in that conference do not get that invitation.

Absolutely. Well, Jacob, this goes

so fast. We're on our last story already and

it's one that I missed. I'm going to file this under a podcast that I

missed. And it's unfortunate because it was free and it had snacks,

which are my two favorite things. This comes to us from the stories we

missed department. Jersey's Best Podcast celebrated its one

year anniversary with its first ever live show on March

25th at Pet Shop in Jersey City.

It was a free event, no tickets required, and it featured a full

live episode with special guests, interactive segments,

trivia, giveaways, merch drink specials, ice cream and

birthday cake. These types of events are happening

everywhere, and this is the level most podcasters can actually

operate at. Local venues, small crowds,

interactive formats, multiple ways to engage and monetize.

This opportunity isn't waiting for permission to press or

press coverage. It's already happening. And I think

that's the number one takeaway from this show today.

What Jacob's building on, what's happening, Salem? All these

six events, I mean, the takeaway is local, is

dominant right now. You can take your show into your community

and do something, give back, perform,

entertain your local community

and you can just do things. You have an idea. You don't need to wait

for someone's permission. You can just make it happen. We're doing an

award show on May 1st, and it's our third award show.

And it was an idea. We want

to recognize people that are making great things happen. There are

a lot of award shows that kind of recognize the legacy people who have been

doing things for, you know, 15, 20 years. But we didn't

really have anything that was recognizing the people that are just getting started, bringing

community together. And so we found a gap and we

filled it. You know, we didn't ask anybody, we didn't ask the city permission,

we didn't ask any legacy organizations. We just said, hey, we're going to make this

happen. What are the pieces that are needed to making a word show happen?

And something that I love about their approach for the

event. And the article is it's a demonstration of how simple it is

to bring people together. I mean, all you really need is a location,

something to eat, something to drink, and then start inviting people to

come. And right now there is such a need. I actually wrote a book

called How Parties will Save the World because I believe

that this is true. We need people who are organizing, getting

people in the space together and allowing for authentic,

meaningful conversations to happen. Whether it's a park podcast

or just a room, I mean, it literally can be that easy.

But when you have a platform like a podcast or a social media channel,

it just becomes your megaphone where you can amplify that these events are

happening, but also recap like, hey, this just happened. Here's

what was the outcome. We would love to have you at the next one.

So media can play a very important role in bringing people together and

bringing communities together all across. I'm in the Rust Belt in

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. There is town after town that has

old downtown areas. A lot of them are boarded up.

And I really believe that what you're talking about, local

events, local podcasts, these types of things can

start to fill those vacant businesses again in your small town.

You can start a little event center, have a little podcast place, a little

way to just bring community together and start being the center of

the community. Start being a meetup place, give a place

for people to get out of the house, come on down, talk to their

neighbors, and have entertainment. Maybe one night you have folk music,

one night you have a podcast, but you're doing something and becoming

a pillar in the community, and that's exactly what Jacob's building, and

I just love that. And it's the perfect fit for what we're trying to build

here with podcasting. And, Jacob, thank you so much for being

here tonight. This has been a lot of fun. A lot of nuggets

you dropped tonight. I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much for having me.

I love what you're doing and anything that's supporting the.

The independent creator and creating local media, I'm a fan of.

So appreciate you. Awesome. And this is the part of the show where I

turn the whole stage over, I get off the stage and I give

you the entire floor to talk about, plug, promote, anything you'd like to talk

about. Jacob, the floor is yours. Well, I'll keep this

as as short and sweet as possible, but we started the

local social club about man, what is like five months ago.

And we have 35 content creators who are all building

local platforms, monetizing, bringing the community together,

becoming the voice of their city, and we'd love to have you in it.

Jacobspinoza.com you can book a call to learn more. It's the local

social club. We're on the school platform if you want to find us that way

as well. But really appreciate you for having me. Look forward to

connecting with a few new faces. Potentially awesome.

Jacob, this has been a blast. I'll put all those links in the show notes,

check them out. Connect with Jacob. If you love what he's building, see

how you can. How can you do that in your community? It's what he's teaching.

Build these small community portals and you'll be

the number one person in town. That's the way to do it. That's how we

do it. Do you remember what time it was? It was time

for the news, I think is what it is. What time is it?

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