Last day of June was that six months of the year already completed. Halfway
through the year today I've got a great guest joining me.
We got Amy Boyle. Speaking of phenomenal, it's the Poduty live
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stage, It's Amy Boyle speaking of phenomenal. Amy, welcome
to the show. Thank you for having me. Great to be here. So
glad to have you here. You really fit into what we're trying to build here
in the theater. Multimedia journalists, photographer, podcaster.
You're doing all the things that we love. Tell us a little bit about
speaking of phenomenal, a little bit about your podcast and how can people connect with
you? Sure. Well, you can find me on all
the different platforms for podcasts at Speaking of
phenomenal, the podcast itself was born out
of a photography project that began in 2018.
I called the photography project was 52
Phenomenal Women. It was supposed to just last a year where there
was a story a week kind
of cross between women crush Wednesday, if you remember that old
hashtag. And
sure. Oh my goodness. Brain freeze. You
know, you would think it would be the heat, but instead it's a brain freeze.
Humans of New York, where I did a feature a week about
a phenomenal woman that I thought people should get to know.
And then people self nominated and the
network of that just kept splintering out into the world. Well, that
one year project turned into two, and then as that
went into two years long, lo and behold,
Covid came along and people didn't want the project to
stop, but I kind of had to physically stop because it got hard to take
photos at, you know, a million miles away from one another, it
seemed. So there became the
reason to start podcasting. And now going into season
six, I have speaking of phenomena, where I talk to women
around the United States and around the world. I just had
season six begin last two weeks ago with the women from the
uk in fact. Oh, awesome.
After six seasons, how many total episodes? How many interviews have you
done over the six seasons? We're now at 65.
Oh, wow. Wow, that's some great stories. Speaking of phenomenal.
Speakingoffphenomenal.com I believe is the website as well. That's correct.
And eakingoffenomenal on Instagram. Awesome.
I'll have all those links in the show notes. After tonight's episode, Amy
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All around podcasting news, showcasing her expertise, showcasing
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over at news.piduti.com Amy,
are you ready to get into our stories? Absolutely.
Husband and wife podcast hosts Angel Lakita Moore,
better known as that Chick angel and Marcus
Tanksley recently wrapped up the final stop of their live tour
in Washington, D.C. their podcast, is this Going to Cause an
Argument? Began after followers encouraged a couple to start recording
conversations together at home. What started around a table in
a small room has grown into a national live tour stop.
It's been in Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and
Washington. The live show goes far beyond simply recording an
episode in front of an audience. Fans participate in
relationship debates, volunteer for interactive games, and
become part of the entertainment. And you mentioned getting started
during COVID and this kind of reminds me of a podcast
that probably started during COVID You have this
couple at home or they're going to start an argument and, and people are like,
hey, these things that you talk about all the time, that you argue about, you
know, in front of us, that should be a show. This is so entertaining. I
love going out to dinner with you. And they're really taking, you know, something
that was personal to them and putting it into this package, whether it's the
podcast or social media post. And they're kind of finding
their audience, they're finding their community and they were able to take this
on a six road tour. You know, it was Chicago, Atlanta, Los
Angeles, Philly and Washington. That's no small feat. So, you
know, this is an idea of, you know, taking your idea, following
your passion, following your heart and getting out in front of people
and making something that's, that's bigger than you ever thought an argument
on a couch would be. Amy, what were some of your takeaways?
Well, what I thought was interesting from the interview that they did for NBC
was that angel mentioned she had been
an actress or she was on TV and that.
So she has stage presence and you could tell that
and that when she had children that she had put that aside.
So there's this desire to perform and you can see
that and how she is. And then part
of the, maybe the conflict is the way she could get her husband to
participate is when they wanted to do. When she
would produce content, the thing that he would participate in would.
Was this. And that was like, that was. That was a compromise, but
also maybe the, the fun give and take. So I thought that that was a
really neat way to work together, but also
play off one another where she still gets to fulfill
and. Or, you know, scratch an itch she's wanted to do for quite a while.
And it's clearly working. And so I just thought that was very
a. A good way of using talents that may have been waiting
to, you know, get out of. Out of dormancy for a
while. And they had some photos during the interview up on
stage where they were kind of. They were. It didn't look like they were sitting
down. A lot of podcasts, like I'm doing right now, I'm sitting down,
but they were up on their feet almost like a comedy show. And
it seemed like. It seemed like it would bring the energy up. It was a
different way. And when I talk about these next evolution of podcasts, like
what's coming down the road. Well, here's a podcast that they had
to adapt for the stage, and they wanted to bring that energy,
bring that emotion. And from some of the photos, it
looks like a good portion of the show happens upright, which is
unique for a podcast. And to have that moving around
the stage, working the audience, going side to side, playing to the back of
the room. They're adding an element to a podcast that you're not going to
get in an MP3 file. You're going to get that in that once in a
lifetime, unique opportunity to see them perform live on
stage. And that was something I really loved about the way that
they approached performing live. Absolutely. I think she
said something about cocktails and crafts. I mean, they had like a whole.
Behind her were like a bunch of buckets of markers and things. I can only
imagine what comes out of that. After
she said, sometimes the shows go an hour, hour 45. That could be
very interesting. A lot of fun. Yeah. And think about,
you know, what are. What are you interested in? What niche are you playing
in? How can you take that to your community, to your audience.
And is it just hanging out the girls night out, doing some
crafts, having some wine, having little snack trays?
And everybody loves charcuterie, so you know that
as well. But having these events and incorporating your community
to really give them back something that they can't get
anywhere else is to have that time with you, to share your expertise
with them and to make these memories, make these moments,
make it really special as a one, once in a lifetime
opportunity. Absolutely.
Well, we'll keep it moving. Every story I seen this week is about
Cannes Lions. Creators and podcasters were a major focus at
this year's Cannes Lions International Festival of Creation Creativity.
During one live discussion, YouTube Chief Business Officer Mary Ellen
Coe and creator Brittany Broski discussed the
growing competition between YouTube and Netflix for podcast
talent. Broski said she continues to publish on YouTube because of its
creative freedom, direct connection with audiences, and lower barrier to
entry. Co acknowledged Netflix's recent push into
podcasting, but said YouTube remains a platform where creators build
audiences and businesses. And then also big headliner
Oprah Winfrey shows up and she appeared throughout the festival
highlighting the growing influence of creators in
today's media landscape. Yeah, I mean,
Oprah was like quite the headline being
all over the place and just coming off the heels of
literally being in Chicago just a week ago from being at the Obama
center opening here. Apparently
she'd been courted for 14 years to be a con, so that's
huge. So this has been no small feat to get her there.
But if the one of the things that was huge as
well is if people have been following. She just
worked a deal with Amazon
to move her podcast platform to Amazon
and is also taking the backlog of her
previous Oprah shows over to Amazon. So there's other rumblings going on
behind and as well as you know, her talking about what's going
on with your mission is more than, you know,
your reason to be here is more we should think bigger about why are we
fully here as people and all these sort of things, which I think is we
should all think about that. But I thought this was a very interesting time
to, to put a big, a big
display there. But to the point about YouTube and Netflix,
I think this is going to be a battle we're going to see for a
while. And I tend to believe that a
lot of people are still going to stay loyal to YouTube
because of the fact that the barrier to entry is so low. And
I think people still want to be their own creator first.
I'd love to hear what you think about that? Yeah, I think YouTube
has a tremendous advantage over Netflix just in ease of
discovery. It's so much easier to find and watch a
podcast on YouTube than to do one on
Netflix. I have subscriptions of both. I have
never even seen a podcast recommended to me on Netflix.
And my life is podcasting. I have a theater. I have. I'm doing
live podcasting performance. All I do is search a talk about
podcast, and Netflix has yet to deliver one of
these podcasts that they're producing to me. But YouTube, every
single day, I'm getting clips, I'm getting recommendations.
It knows how to push those podcast people. So from a discovery
perspective, I think YouTube is right now is
outperforming Netflix multiples to one. And the
thing I loved about when you mentioned Oprah showing up is
Oprah's like the first lady of independent production, of
owning your media, owning the things that you create, the production
rights, the distribution rights. I mean, she pioneered so much of that
throughout the late 80s and 90s. And for her to put this
off, not put this off for 14 years, but wait until the time was right,
I really think her being there is a great
testament to the power of podcasting and what you
can build. What can you accomplish if she can build, you know, Harpo was her
production company. Now she's doing this with podcasting and Amazon,
and she's saying, like, hey, there's something here.
I'm going to make an appearance and talk about these things. I think it's
time for a lot of people to listen. A lot of businesses to get involved,
a lot of independent creators, consultants, people who are
just passionate maybe about Legos or macrame. You know,
get involved, you know, find out, you know, what you love to talk about.
This is the time to build your media and your media empire. You could be
the next Harpo. Absolutely. And she said it multiple
times about. To really think about
who you are meant to fully be and not to. You know,
she's like, everyone's here to think about marketing, to think about what we're
selling and what the show is. But ultimately, you know,
to use the words fully human, Fully human
in a very AI time, I find that
stuck out and rang loud in my head
right now, especially coming out of her mouth. So,
you know, when Oprah speaks, people listen. We'll just leave it at that.
I want that on a T shirt. Oprah speaks.
I'm listening. Well, let's go over to our third story.
Keep it moving right along here. And I love this one. You Know me.
Live podcasting have a little theater space here. And this is
the Thrifty Traveler. They drew nearly 300 people
and it was on my birthday, June 12th. I just turned 50.
Happy birthday. Thank you. I've been milking it all month. So
look at the crew that they have with them. They have a team of nine,
10 people. So this is something you should. You could probably
aspire to if you want to take your show on the road. If you want
to produce something bigger than your podcast in the basement and entertain
people, this podcast was able to entertain 300 people.
The thrifty Traveler podcast recently hosted its first live show at the
Parkway Theater in Minneapolis, drawing nearly 300
travel enthusiasts from across the United States and even
the Netherlands. The evening featured a live podcast recording
travel trivia, audience Q and A and stories from the
host about memorable travel experiences and mishaps. The
recording is also going to be released as a special bonus
episode. Well, I really
loved it because I just. In mid April, I saw
Rick Steves on tour for the on the Hippie Trail. And you
know, I mean, Rick Steves draws a crowd wherever he goes, but in particular
for that particular book, which made me think about
this because the Thrifty Traveler and him and
Rick Steves talking about his very first trip being extremely
thrifty, where I think he might have spent all of $175
or whatever. So I just love
their enthusiasm and then the
fan base that they grew out of this. They just seemed to
have so much fun. The cardboard cutouts of people taking pictures with
them. It just seemed like they all had such a good.
What I think is just charming and also
effective in this is I know the people
probably. I know the people probably. That sounds really definitive.
It would seem effective that the mishaps are
part of what is the big draw. Right. People don't want to
know why it was perfect. They want to know what went wrong
and how the did you overcome certain aspects of things.
And also. So I think that's something that's huge
to hear. I think humor is probably a big draw with these
folks. So I just thought that this was just an
extremely charming way to do it. And the fans just
seemed to have a grand time. And as for a first try
putting this together, kudos to them. Yeah,
not too shabby. And they threw out all of the engagement
tactics. They had audience Q and A. So people got to feel like they're part
of the show. They did trivia. I'm sure there were answers and threw out
prizes to the winners and they told stories and they had all these.
Yeah. Like, the mishaps that you're talking about, they really made this an immersive experience
for their fans. And to draw 300, that's pretty
impressive for the first time out.
Absolutely. Yeah. I think, again, talk about,
you know, community and belonging being such a big deal in all
of these live aspects that we're talking about
today. I think in an aspect of
where podcasting can feel solo or it's just in literally
our head or our AirPods or earbuds or whatever, you know, to
be together to all of a sudden see somebody else that are like,
oh, you like the show, too? And now have a human connection and find somebody
else in your community or in the Netherlands, per se. Like,
they drew like, this is great. Now have. You know, it's
a group of friends that you wouldn't normally have, and you could take it from
there. Yeah. That's something that people don't talk
about is when you go to a podcast about traveling, chances
are people in the audience are also traveling lovers, too. Like, they
want to get out. They want to learn the tips and tricks. You're going to
make new connections, new friends sitting right next to you. Even might be
somebody who becomes a lifelong friend or a lifelong connection just
because you went to the same type of event, you have the same type of
interest. So, you know, when there's a podcast in your hometown, get out there,
support them. These events are like, they're usually not more than
20, 25 bucks. So even if you have the worst night of your life,
you know, you're not breaking the bank to go out and
possibly make some new connections and meet some new people. So, you know, support local
podcasting in your community, in your hometown. Get out there, get out, get
those tickets. Absolutely. Go get those tickets.
And I love this story, too. It's very important. It's
44 and HSE hosts a live podcast panel on
nightlife safety. So if you think about all the people who are going out, they're
clubbing, they're staying out, blowing off some steam, dancing away the
night, dancing away that stress from the work week, well, there's also
a dark side to nightlife, and this was a great podcast idea to really
coach and train and look out and teach people to look out for the certain
dangers when they go out. This happened on May 28th.
44 magazine and Ireland's Health service executive
hosted a live podcast panel at WIGWAM in Dublin.
The discussion focused on nightlife safety, harm reduction and
informed decision Making the event was based on findings from a
national survey examining attitudes towards nightlife safety
and emerging drug trends. DJs, journalists, venue
operators and public health leaders participated in
the live conversation. I thought this was a great way
to get a message of care out to a community
that is already together by doing
outreach and education in a packaged way
through, like, through your DJs and through your
artistic group in your community, but also having
ways of maybe not having to go raise your hand and
say, I want to know more, but I can do it in a way where
I'm just curious about. I can go sit and listen to a panel or go
to a podcast or, you know, find out different
things that maybe you wouldn't have known otherwise. So I thought this was a
genius way to bring people together and to show,
based on statistics that they know that this, this
community needs these services, needs to know
more. They, you know, you know, this is
just a tremendous way of doing and reaching their
group. Yeah, tremendous public service announcement. I think back
to when I was a kid. The best I got was like a commercial after
school where a guy cracked some eggs into a pan and said, this is my
brain on drugs. That was kind of the, the talks that we got
in the 80s and 90s. But an event like this, it's a current
event. People like going out, they like seeing panelists and
going to live podcasts and to be able to get together
with the health service executive and this
magazine, pairing a cool magazine with some government services
to deliver this information to club goers or even people who
are new in this country. You're graduating high school, you're going to
college. By the time you're at your third year in college, you start. Sure, that's
probably not the first time you start drinking when you're 21, but you start going
out at night a little bit more. You need to know about
being safe and
these red flags that you're going to find at night, you're better off to know
them going into it than experiencing it in real life. So having an event
like this, I think really does deliver that information
to the right people at the right time. Definitely.
Yeah. I think that just being proactive in this, but also keeping
it from people that are your peers and not being
talked at, being talked to, is also critical,
even critical, More critical. I love this next story too. I've done a
lot of work with Sarah Bradford, SJ Childs, and we've done about four
autism conferences, the one in 36 mix, and
they're just a great Time where we. We actually feature
about a dozen podcasters over two days. And this one's
called the podcast Neurotypicals Don't Juggle Chainsaws, which
I'm already in because of the name, recently recorded two live
episodes at Gosforth Civic Theater in England. Hosted by
Dr. Kate Fox and Nick King, the event featured live
podcast recordings followed by audience questions and discussions.
The podcast explores autism, adhd, and
neurodiversity through conversations designed to be informative,
honest, and approachable. Wonderful. I mean,
I think so many of us either need this
podcast ourselves or know somebody in our immediate family
or people that we come in to play with at work
or through school. And just. I love
the approach of the 30 minutes or less
shows. I also love treating things with humor. I
just thought this, the way the show is done
and taking it live and making it approachable is just,
oh, we should be seeing more things like this.
Yeah. As soon as I saw the name, I just knew how much
fun the event's going to be. A lot of times, like,
maybe when I was going into some of these events with Sarah, I didn't understand
the spectrum. I didn't understand all these different areas of
neurodiversity. And the things that I really started to learn
from putting myself out there is.
There's just like these slivers that are really just personality traits
that I see some people have that have, you know, I have some of the
same exact. Like, you can really start to relate to, you know,
what neurodiversity is by just hanging out and being there and being
part of the. Being part of the event, being part of the community. You really
start to just see, like, okay, this is all. This is what this is.
I get it. And, you know, and I also have things like
that. You'll see how relatable some of the things are
that. That you'll. You'll encounter through some of these meetings. And
it's just. It's unbelievable. Like, it's. It's one of the things that'll light you up.
And it's. It's a whole new experience, a whole new perspective when you
get in there and you really immerse yourself in the community.
And again, the name just drew me in. As soon as I saw that, I'm
like, oh, this is going on the show. Neurotypicals don't juggle chainsaw. So
follow that link in the show notes. Check out the show. It does have
the kind of humor you're looking for, a way to deliver
the information in A way that's enjoyable and fun and
actionable and just that you want to be there. It's an
environment that they're creating where you want to go
participate in and you want to be a part of that community as well.
That's excellent. I was at, I don't know if you're familiar with
air, the association for independent
radio producers, but you should
look them up. I was at one of their galas
in New York last month and I met a woman who. Her
name is Angela and she has an. Her whole
group and a podcasting group for
autistic culture. Podcast group. So she
puts together podcasters, all that. All they do
is podcast in this space. So this would be something that
I could see a bunch of them coming together. So they all
have different places and spaces to have a whole network
of different shows together, which is pretty awesome. Yeah. Why not
put a little festival together, get some shows together, you know, have a night
out. Yeah. And if you really want to have a night out.
Zoom, zoom, rev, rev. Got some nascar.
We have the NASCAR weekend at Sonoma Raceway featured more than
just racing as part of the fan experience. Nikki and Bri
Garcia recorded a live episode of the Nikki and Bri
show before hosting a meet and greet with fans. The weekend also
included live music, an AIR show and other fan
activities demonstrating how live podcasting
continues to become parts of major sporting
events. Major events, major conferences, they're all incorporating
podcasting as part of the entertainment. This seems to
be such a trend. It was interesting
to see NASCAR in the list of the different
articles we were going to talk about today. You know, I'm in Chicago
and we just sent
NASCAR on its way from. We had it here for a couple of
years. And what was interesting is it was a test run. Right. To see
how non traditional locations could do
with these big sporting events. Right, right. We had NASCAR whizzing through
the streets of Chicago, but with it, it brought different
groups and associations that normally wouldn't be associated
with racing culture. And so it brings to this
point, like these ladies who talk about non things
racing related, you know, wine and
girl talk and all these other things to bring their live
podcast to Sonoma, which is their kind
of audience. That makes perfect sense. But these
kind of pop up live events, we're going to be seeing more
of it. I just. And that does make sense to see.
Why not bring these live experience and then you might be gathering
new new audience members and they're kind of going, what's going on?
And then you have new People walk by your setup
and kind of wanting to know more about what your show is all about.
Yeah, it's a great way to cross promote, a great way to meet new fans.
Whether or not this is. I don't recall if they were NASCAR specific or if
they were just there as part of the entertainment, doing their show
and kind of cross promoting, bringing their fans to nascar,
introducing NASCAR to their fans. And I just love this type
of this idea. We've seen this with music, we've seen it with
comedians for years, but now it's kind of time for podcasting to
take center stage and to become the main event
at some of these other events or sideshow events. You get that with
podcasting. Yeah. I mean, in January,
I was in San Francisco and just like
Edinburgh has Fringe Fest, well, San Francisco has sketch
fest and that's, you know, for comedians. But
I would say a third of the schedule was all live
podcasts. And it was the most interesting thing to see.
Like, that's what people, that's what the tickets were selling out for, were
live shows of other people, people's podcasts. You know, it was
Rachel Dredges. Woo, woo. Yes. She's a comedian, but it was
her podcast and it was the climate talk guys and
it was the other people, and it was like on and on and on. And
these were the kind of events that were selling out at what would normally
be a traditional, like, comic event. So,
you know, these trends are live is where it seems to be
where it's going right now. Yeah, I'm a little bullish on
live events. I really think, you know, we hear so much about videos,
the future, but I do think that there's a place for
performing live, performing podcasts in front of an audience. We know it works
for comedy, we know it works for music. Why not for podcasting? And
this is a great example of what they put together at this
raceway. And I want to. All I want to see is more and more events
like this. I agree with you.
Well, Amy, I warned you. It goes by so fast. That's our six
stories already. This is the part of the show. One
last time, I turn the stage completely over to you.
You can plug, promote, talk about anything you'd like.
Amy, the floor is yours.
Well, I just want to thank you for this opportunity to chat with your
audience today. And if anyone here
is interested, I would love to bring you on over to speaking of
phenomenal, where tonight, 12 episodes a season,
I talk to a phenomenal woman a week. And
it would be great to have you join the journey and join our community.
I'll have all those links in the show notes connect with Amy Boyle.
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