There we go. You know, it's 7, 7, 7, 7. A lot of time. Lucky
numbers 777 at the casino. You hit the jackpot
on the slot machines. But today's July 7, 2026. I'm at the
Poduty Live podcast theater. This is Poduty and the News, your host, Jeff Revilla
with an amazing guest joining me today from the future,
it's Ange Dove, the unchained coach, the you're the boss
podcast host. Ange, you know what time it is.
It's your future. I'm calling
in from 7 o' clock in the morning in Singapore today. What
time is it?
What time is it?
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Ang. Welcome to the show, Jeff. Thank you so
much for having me. It's wonderful to be here calling in from
Singapore, and it's seven o' clock in the morning here, and it's a great
way to start the day. Oh, I love it. We've got high energy, got the
theme song, your seat dancing.
That's part of. I'm a Gen Xer too. I'm a 76, baby.
I just 50 in June. So I'm just on the tail end.
I'm making the cut. And I went over to your website. I love the layout,
I love the energy. I love the way that you're presenting this to Gen Xers.
And tell us a little bit about, like, the Unchained coach. Tell us
a little about your methods and what, you know, what you're thinking or how you
put things together for Gen X. Yeah, so, yeah, so
I'm speaking mainly to. To Gen X. And it's kind of.
We're at the time of life where you've got
more life behind you than you have possibly ahead of you.
And we're looking at really making things
count. And I think it's a time for Gen X's to stand up,
do what they want to do. So I'm all about just helping people to do
what they want to do. And when they realize that maybe they've
spent a lot of their life pleasing other people or doing things that they
hadn't really planned, now it's time to really get going and
make your life count. That's what I'm about. Yeah. And I'm
really feeling that in this, you know, this last. This last. I want to say
it's the last act, but I feel liberated knowing that
the things I've accomplished and got me to this place. I
feel like I have a superpower now as I get older. I'm in my
50s now. I feel like really that the best years of my life
are ahead of me. And I got a lot of that from your website, from
your coaching, and I was really excited to connect with you.
I think you have some great perspectives on how can we build
our brands, how can we continue developing our skills and building
community as a Gen xer into our 50s and 60s.
Yeah, yeah. So I'm all about people in
transition, so helping people to tell that new
story. So if you've been maybe in a career for most of your life
and you want to now start a business, then I help people to make that
transition or a new identity. I
myself have just gone through a new identity.
And that's all about personal branding and making sure that your brand stays relevant to
where you are. Because everything changes in life and we go through life's
changes, but we also go through changes that life puts on us
that, you know, like we've had recently, the pandemic we've had. For
me personally, it's been AI that has
made my past career quite irrelevant in some
cases. So it's finding. Still being relevant in the
new times and knowing that with all of the
information and the knowledge that you've amassed over the last 50,
60 years, that's relevant and that can help people today. So
it's time to shine. I saw on your website you had a little
caricature of yourself with a saxophone. Was. Was your.
Your previous passion, Was it making music or
performing? It's. It's still my passion. I just a
hobby. But you can see in the background here, there's a couple of. There's a
few saxophones at the back there. The digital. The big ones are digital
sax, which helps me here because
the live sax is so loud in an apartment.
So I use a digital sax when I'm at home, but then under
my table, I have the real one as well. So, yeah,
I just happened to catch that detail while I was browsing around
on your website and I said, okay, there's some history here with some music.
I think the sax is the sexiest
sound on the planet.
And also the you're the boss podcast a little bit of
the same. Building off of the coaching methods
and talking about what's the next step for Gen X
or how do you develop your skills and become a
better leader, a better person. Yeah. So my
podcast covers the same thing as, like, you're the
boss, meaning people are moving over to running their own
business. So we cover really a wide range of things
on there, everything to do with starting a business from
health through to like the running of a business itself, systems
and things like that. So. And we have amazing guests that come on
around the world and giving really good advice there as well.
Awesome. I'll have all those links in the show notes. Go over to news.paduti.com
connect with Ang after the show, Ang gets inducted into
Piduti and the crew, which is all the people who have ever been on the
show. You can find everybody with all their links, all their connections, the
updates, and even future episodes because I'd love to have Ange back on the
show. So if there's any future episodes, you'll see all those listed
there over on the profile page and it's news.paduti.com
Connect with Ange, reach out to her. All those links will also be in the
show notes. Are you ready for our
stories? Here
we go. Story number one. Think Deepa Live reinvents the live
podcast experience through storytelling and audience
participation A new live podcast series in Manchester is
reimagining what it means to attend a podcast recording.
Think Deepa Live, hosted by broadcaster Deepa Pararek,
combines celebrity interviews with guided reflection, journaling, breathwork
and audience participation. Actress Chelsea
Healy helped launch the series by sharing her journey through fame,
entrepreneurship, motherhood, and learning to embrace
authenticity. Despite years of public criticism, rather than
simply watching a conversation, attendees became active
participants, connecting the stories on stage to their
own personal experiences. And this is one of those stories that
I love. It's taking something that you're passionate about, in this
case, this Think Deep Alive is the brand, the
podcast, what they're preaching and talking about,
breath, work and meditation and relaxing, and
they're taking that to a live environment as the expert in front
of a stage, in front of an audience and bringing on people to
talk about and really share that experience. And I think this strategy is
a great way to position yourself as an expert and get that
live performance. Scratch that itch of how can I do
this live, share my expertise and make some great new
connections. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I think,
yeah, having a live audience, there's nothing better than actually
riffing off live and talking to people live.
And then she had that skill anyway. So it's, it's
a comfortable thing to be able to, to create a podcast that way.
And I think one of the things as well is that anyone can do a
podcast about what they're passionate about. And it's,
it's, you know, like I'm saying in the 50s, it's the 60s,
it's our time. But the technology that's around today
just allows you to pick any stage you want.
And I would encourage people especially as well, that even if
they're not comfortable on camera, just try it
out. Just get on there. I was, I. I went through a stage of
life where I couldn't be on camera. I was really
uncomfortable. You know, I came from the age where the camera was for Hollywood
stars. Right. And TV stars. So
it was not something I was comfortable with. Whereas my kids could get on with
their mobile phone and, and, you know, get on camera and they never thought
twice about it. In our era, that wasn't the case.
So it took me some time to get comfortable on camera. But once I became
comfortable, now I have my own YouTube channel. And it's just a case
of picking. With you, building your personal brand is picking a
platform that's comfortable for you, that you can be in and you can
do and just try out different things. Like as she has
done, she's. She's gone with something that she's able to do and she's
found an audience. And I think that's, that's just
the way to build your brand and just be you. Yeah. In some
cases, I'm grateful that there's not photos and video of. When I was a
kid and we used to hide, like if the camera came
out, like, we would hide. We didn't want to be on camera. We didn't want
to be photographed back when we were younger. But now it's a skill set
that everybody needs, needs to have. It's, it's taking
those presentations you would do in the boardroom and, and magnifying
it times a thousand by putting that speech online, putting that,
those slides into a presentation that thousands of people can
watch it. Not just 10 or 15 people within a company, but you
can really reach so many people. It's so powerful
to be able to get out there and put yourself out there and really see
where it takes you over time. That's a really good point because
that's one of the things I teach people is how to take the
information they have or, you know, if they've done a video,
how to take that video and change it into other
formats so they're using the same material. They don't
have to waste time creating new material. So just make the most of the
material you have. You can create blogs from it, social Media,
posts, all sorts of things. So, and, and you're right, there's
never been a better time to put yourself out there because we have, you
know, we have so many opportunities to do it. But you're right to the point
that when we were younger, it was probably best
that there wasn't a camera around. And you've got to have a new skill
set now to make sure that what you put on camera is what you want
to be seen. And that's one of the things about building a brand as well,
is it's an intentional process where
you're creating something that, where you want,
that you want people to see, and you're building the narrative yourself. You're not waiting
for other people to build it for you.
It's a great segue to our next story. You mentioned the repurposing,
the publishing, and how about the International Festival of
Creativity? It's at Canneslines. Spotify shared a new
approach to brand partnerships that focuses on participation instead
of traditional sponsorship. During a panel discussion,
Spotify's global head of business marketing, Bridget
Evans, explained that today's audience, especially Gen Z,
expect brands to contribute something meaningful. Rather than simply
placing logos on an event. Spotify highlighted examples where
brands became part of the fan experience through live events,
artist collaborations, and interactive activations.
The message was clear, lasting loyalty comes from helping
people feel connected, not simply buying attention.
Yeah, I think one of the things today is collaboration
and community, and people, I think, want to feel
connected. So these platforms give them a way to, to be connected
and work together because we're not alone in this world. And you can just
go so much further if you, you collaborate with other people. So I think
that's a fantastic environment to build your brand,
and that's something I'm looking to do myself. It was just,
you know, sometimes in, in, in life, you,
you start something new and something else crops up that gives you
ideas. So I just received a book in the post the other
day. I was reading through this book and it was giving ideas
for webinars. And as I was reading through, I was
thinking, okay, actually, I could get my past
podcast guests and collaborate with them and do a webinar
with them. And it was something that I hadn't really thought about before. I kind
of segmented everything into different buckets,
but you can actually put them all together as well.
So using the contacts you've already got often is a
great way to collaborate with people and just reach a wider audience.
Serve more people by working
together. Yeah, and these type of experiences, too,
These, these are very immersive events and it's something that we're seeing that
the Gen Z millennial generations are craving. They. They want
in person contact. I think they're waking up from,
hey, maybe these cell phones are addictive. Maybe I spend too much
time staring at a screen. Maybe I want human connection.
I want to live like those Gen Xers did, where they had to go outside
and play. They had no choice. People
are hungry for this type of connection. And these type of experiences
not only connect the artist, but it connects
the business with the audience too, and shows that, hey, we're real people here.
We're doing real things that really impact you. And I think
these type of events are a great stepping stone, probably to what we'll
see more of in the future. They are. And I think with the
pandemic, that really highlighted, I think, to the
world that we are social creatures
and we do need that community.
Yeah. And a great community. Stuff youf Should Know Community, this is one of
podcasting's longest running and most successful shows,
is headed to Vancouver for a live recording this summer.
Stuff youf Should Know hosts Josh Clark and Chuck Bryant will take the
stage at the Queen Elizabeth Theater, bringing the same
curiosity, humor and audience interaction that have helped the podcast
earn billions of downloads since its launch in 2008.
Known for turning everyday questions into engaging conversation, the
live show offers fans a chance to experience the chemistry between
the host and person, with audience participation again
ensuring that every performance is unique.
Yeah, I think, you know, when I was a child, they used to
say, like, everyone will have their 15 seconds of fame, right?
But I think now people are taking it into their own hands and
there's a different kind of fame. If you, like today. And
like in my day, if you went on tour, you were a rock band,
right? Now, anyone can go on tour. So you've got
podcasters going on tour and they've become celebrities
in their own right, to their own community. Right? And so
it gives people the power, I think, to tune into the
shows that resonate with them, the topics that resonate with them, and then
taking it from the screen. Your podcast that used to be audio,
then became video, is now becoming a live event
as well that people can actually take part in. And that's
an exciting thing. I don't know if I would be able to do that, but
that's really exciting. And even though
this podcast has been around since 2008, these live experiences,
they can't be replicated through an MP3 file. So, yes,
they're delivering an episode every week, and you can download it and listen to it
in your car, your morning commute, while you're jogging or working out,
but to go to a theater and to see them perform the show
live, to see how the sausage is made, they say a lot of
times you get to see the secrets of how they act with each
other, how their facial expressions, how they
interact with audience questions, how they interact in the moment, how they
react. You don't get any of that from an
MP3 file. And this just kind of takes that experience to the next
level. It does, yes.
And speaking of going to the next level, beam me up. We got a
Star Trek story coming up from
Trek Movies. We have Star Trek Community
comes together for a live podcast panel at Trek
Long Island. The live podcast recording of Trek Long island
demonstrated the power of serving a passionate niche audience.
Trek Movies All Access. Star Trek Podcast hosted a
live panel titled Generations of Star Trek Women, bringing
together actresses from multiple eras of the franchise to discuss
their experiences and evolution of the women in Star Trek.
Recorded in front of a live audience during the convention,
the event showed how podcasts can become a central part of
fan experiences by creating conversations that extend
beyond traditional panels.
Yeah, I think you can't go wrong with Star Trek, can you?
I love Star Trek. I've always watched that. And, you
know, it's going to. What I was saying before is now we're sort of going
into niche areas, niche markets, where people
have a passion for a certain show or a certain topic
and they come together and it creates this community of people that will
naturally come together because they have the same interests, guests. And
just being able to create shows and experiences around that, I just
think is, Is absolutely fascinating. And it's,
you know, we've, we've, we've gone from
having entertainment thrown at us
in a way to actually today creating that entertainment
for ourselves and inviting other people into the entertainment.
It's a different, completely different vibe. And I think it's,
it's a really exciting way to go. And it's a great way as well to,
to build a brand. You know, you've got people, community that's coming
together around what you're interested in, and we can
build communities around that so easily today because we've got,
I mean, it's never been a better time to do it. We've got the tools.
They're getting better and better all the time. And if you,
if you're looking to actually create a community or do a show, I'd
like highly encourage Anyone to do it. Like, my podcast
has become the highlight of my week. I never
thought that I did it just for fun at the beginning, and then it became
a way that I just enjoy so much talking to people
around the world. Absolutely love it. So
it's just, for me, it's just the best, the best part of my week.
You kind of touch on this micro celebrity concept where
in every industry, in every niche, in every
genre, there are the experts in those industries. They may
not be widely known across the board, across the world, but
within that little target, within that little area that you're passionate about,
I guarantee you there's a conference, there's events, there are
live things happening that are all centered around the thing that you're
passionate about. So if you can connect in and plug into those types of events,
like Star Trek fans, what better
place to perform a Star Trek podcast at a Star
Trek conference? So, you know, go to where your audience is and that's, this
is a great strategy from what they're doing here. And then I think as
well, like you look at the way things have evolved, like the last US Election
when Donald Trump was appeared on people's
podcasts. Right. It's, it's not the news channels they're going to now,
it's the podcast channels because that's where the listeners are as well.
That's where the people congregate. Right? Yeah. And if you're a
chef or a cook or a baker, why not go
to a cooking podcast? The Escoffer uses a live podcast
to launch its expansion into Canada into
August. The August Escoffer School of
Culinary Arts marked the occasion with its first international live recording
at the Ultimate Dish in Toronto. Hosted by
Escofier president Kirk Bachmann and featuring Emmy
nominated chef Kristen Kish, the event brought together
aspiring chefs, educators and industry professionals to
discuss career pathways and future culinary education.
Rather than relying on traditional press conference, Escoffer
used a live podcast to connect directly with
its community while reinforcing its mission and brand.
Nice. Yeah. So I like, I like the way, as you
say, instead of doing the traditional newswire or the traditional
press release, just to be able to take your podcast and
go into other markets is
absolutely fantastic. And that's such a great idea to be able to
like go international, but using your podcast as the platform,
you've already got an audience that's interested, now you're just
expanding location. And
that's, that's, again, it's this idea that we're not
relying on the traditional media anymore. We're creating
our own media. And that's just such a powerful.
It's kind of like people power. Right? It's. It's such a powerful way
to. To build your brand, run your business, expand your business
into other territories as well. This is
like. Like an open house on steroids. Right? They're. They're a culinary
arts school. They put together this event to bring people in,
like a show and tell. Here's our services, here's what we do,
here's what we're building. And instead of a generic
brochure that they would have mailed to you 20 years ago, now you're going
into there. You're experiencing the school, the atmosphere,
how everybody works together, what the potential is.
You're getting future insights. How do I build my career in the
culinary institute, too? And it's just.
Sorry.
So. And also you get people's reactions straight away as
well. So it's that. That's something that you can
use in your business because they're there. They're giving you
automatic feedback. So that's something that you can build
in your business to. To know that you're speaking to the right
audience and speaking in the right way to them, because you're actually getting the
feedback directly from them, which is something that was
harder in the past to do. Yeah, they're right
there, right in front of you. And if they're on the fence, this will really
help, maybe show somebody. This is the right path for me or it's
not the right path for me. And it's a great way to get that experience.
And again, what is it? Another immersive event. I think there's a
trend here tonight with events, immersion and
really defining who you are, defining your brand, defining your purpose,
and sharing that with the public.
We might as well finish sharing our last story tonight, a little
comedy and culture podcast called Fear, and it's
taking its show on the road with live performances at San Francisco's
Golden Gate Theater in August. Hosted by Hasan Piker,
Will Neff, QT Cinderella and Austin show,
the event gives fans an opportunity to experience the podcast in person
through live conversations, audience interaction, and
unscripted moments that can't be replicated online. The
tour continues a growing trend of successful podcasts extending their
brand beyond digital platforms and creating a live
experience for their communities.
So, again, this goes to this, this idea of touring.
Right. So it's just opened up a completely new
avenue for people to expand their brand. If you think about,
as I said before, rock stars used to tour, and now it's like anybody
can book a venue and create that. If you've got that community
and you just. You're basically just going and visiting your fans
in their. In their own locations, which I think is really great.
So, again, it's. It's this. We're just seeing an evolution
of the podcast from listening
to video. And video was a big jump. Right. And it's still.
There's still a way to go with that with video people. There's still a lot
of podcasts that still just do audio. I love the video aspect
of it because, as I said, as you said, you can
see the reactions of people, and there's much more of a
conversation that's to be had from that. Um, but the.
The idea of putting it on tour
is just a fantastic way to. To build your brand much
quicker, I think, as well. Um, yeah. Yeah. So
those people that, like,
as I said, like, it's time. It's your time to shine, if you really want
to shine, I think this is a great way to. To expand your brand.
Yeah, we, you know, podcasting for so long was audio. Mostly. It had video.
But in the last couple years, we've heard so much about video, video,
video, and here, here I come. And with six stories
about. I think once we get past video and people understand
the power of connection, I think we're gonna see live
as really a big component of the podcast industry. And, you
know, I've been coming here every week with six stories and all the branding and
marketing and things that Ange is talking about, these things, these two things start
to cross paths. That's a very powerful
tool to have in your toolbox, to be able to go live, talk
in front of people, get a recording, and then distribute that to the world.
So that repurposing that Andrew was talking about earlier,
multiplying your voice, getting it recorded, and
meeting people face to face, and then you have this asset that you can
distribute to the rest of the world. Yeah. And I think also
it's one of the things that's coming out of this as well, is just being
yourself, being authentic. You're not, although you're putting on
a show in terms of it being on tour, these. These
events are just very human, and the people are just
being authentic with who they are. And I think that's the key today
is just be authentic. Don't put on a show. Just show who you
are. And people just love people being themselves. You know, what's
are all mistakes, and all this is what people love. That's just Being
part of the event themselves, being part of the community,
taking people as just humans and building
relationships from that. So I think that's definitely the
way to go. So I think as well, if you're. If you're feeling
that this is something you want to do and you're thinking of doing a podcast,
things like that, then I would say that the.
The idea that you just be authentic and just be you,
it's. It's like a freedom ticket. It's like you're giving yourself
the freedom to just go and do what you want to do. And
that's what I'm all about. And encouraging people in
their next chapter of life is just be you.
That's the only person you have to be on stage. That's the only person the
audience expects of you, is to just be you. And the more
you are you and not a character or Persona,
the more people will relate to you offstage and really
connect with you in a way that just wouldn't happen in any other way.
Just show up as you. You are more than
enough to entertain the audience.
You be you. And, Ang, this has been so much fun. I didn't warn you
before. It goes really fast. We did a half an hour already.
And I like to do one thing before we go. I like to turn the
stage back over to you. You can plug, promote, talk about
anything you'd like. Ang, the floor is yours.
Okay. All right. So I'm a personal
brand expert, so I help people to build their personal brand. And I
do have a quiz that's on my website, and
it's really on my. It's angstuff.com
scorecard. So you can go there and take
a quiz and just find out where the gaps are in your brand that you
would need to fill. And then if you're open to working
with me after that, then I can help you to build that brand.
Awesome. I'll have those links in the show notes.
Ang, do you remember what time it was?
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