Future of Podcasting: Live Events, AI, and Community with Wize Otero
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Future of Podcasting: Live Events, AI, and Community with Wize Otero

Hey, everybody. Welcome to Poduty and the News. I've got Wize joining me.

We've got six great stories headed your way.

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If that beat doesn't get you out of your seat, check your pulse, you

might not be alive. It's Poduty and the News for Tuesday,

December 16, 2025, with Will Wize Otero

joining me all the way from the Poconos. Wize,

welcome to the show. Oh, man. Great honor to be here,

man. Always a pleasure to collaborate with you. Oh, man, I.

We were talking before the show, probably since 2020,

you three to four main things a year that we collaborate

on different events. Indie pods. The women of indie pods.

You've been out here to the theater. We did two days of live

streaming. Yes, we did. And we got you one of those Primanti

sandwiches. Yes, yes.

That was when I could eat a lot and. Yeah,

well, that was a lot of fun. I hope to get you back out here

soon. We had a little bit of a, I think, schedule conflict this year, but

hopefully coming up in the spring. And I know since we

last spoke, I don't know, it's every three

to four weeks you have a big announcement coming up like you always

have. You're always something in the works. There's something new you're working on.

I'm really excited for one big thing that you're starting to put together

next year. I don't know if you have all the details yet, but there's going

to be a way for a lot of people possibly to get together. But tell

us a little bit about what you've been working on, especially since the last time

you were out here. Oh, man, it's a lot of things, man.

We launched Real Wize Publishing.

I've learned how to self publish books, me and Poppy J. And so

we've launched Real Wize Publishing. Like I said,

we've gone a whole new

rebranding. We went from Real

Wize Productions to Real Wize Global Media,

focusing more on a lot of the stuff that we're

trying to build, man. It's just been an amazing

12 months. This, this year has been really.

It's been one of those moments, right, where you know

that you're right there at that. At that point

level where it's just ready to, like, just take off or

explode. So it feels like

2025 is just right there. So for 2026,

we just plan to just take it to another level and

Just keep grinding. Yeah, let's make

it happen. I mean, we've. We've been laying the groundwork for a few years, and

you've ramped it up over the last year with the book, with the

publishing, with the podcast, the rebrand.

I don't know if you're talking about the other. Are you still working on the.

I'm still working on the retreat, yes. That's. That's something. That's.

Because I've gotten so much great feedback from it. Right.

Especially the concept and everything that we're

trying to build around it, because it's something where I

want podcasters to come together and because

I. Because I. Actually, next month, I will be in Orlando for

PodFest. Right. But this will be completely different because

PodFest is so big. Right.

And it's so many people and you get to network with

where. I just want this to be a little bit more an intimate setting. Probably

20 to 25, maybe 30 podcasters getting

together and, and having workshops and, and collaborating and,

and the content that they create there. That's for them

to. To use and, and build from there.

Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm going to get there. No

matter what rain, sleet or shine or snow,

you have to be there. Because you, You. You're kind of. So, you're sort of

kind of like the. The tech guy, too, as well. Even though I. I

kind of been doing it. But yeah, no, it's. You

definitely got to be there, brother man. I'll be two, three days early. You'll

be wanting to get rid of me after the event, but I'm. I'm really looking

forward to it. It's going to be a phenomenal event. I've heard some of the

details you've been working on, and I'm sure as more details come about, you'll

release more information. But you just keep an eye out, you know, make sure. Follow

Wize in the links that I put into the show notes, Stay in contact,

connect with them on Facebook, on LinkedIn, make those connections with

the guests that I'm having because they're working on things. These are

movers and shakers. This is like independent media

on steroids. And all these little things that we've been working on

are bubbling up now. They're starting to grow roots and get legs

and start to run. So, you know, pay attention. Make sure you connect with

Wize. Go into the show notes and click

Wize's links. Are you

ready for some of our stories tonight?

Yes, I am. As you know, on this show we get six stories

about different cities, small towns, conferences. People are

doing live shows in droves. It's something that

we didn't see as much six to 12 months ago, but

I now have a backlog of 40 plus stories of people

doing live podcasts. This is why we're doing the show two times a week.

There's so much news coming in. There's so much change happening in

live podcasting and live events. People podcasting at

conferences, people filling theaters, arenas, coffee.

It is happening and it's happening in bigger and bigger

numbers. This is something to pay attention to. This is probably episode

30, 35 of this show, Poduty and the News.

And every week we've done six stories. There's

180 examples I'm giving you of people around the world doing

live podcasting and I've got six more for you. Tonight we're

going to go to that first story and this is one we're

going to file under. Is that a podcast? We're not sure we know

how YouTube has been morphing the definition of what a podcast is, what

a podcast could be. And it looks like TikTok is going to take that and

put it through the ringer a little further. So is this a podcast or just

a TikTok with better lighting? We're going to put this strategy under

platform first live series and TikTok announced

TikTok in the mix, a new live podcast in

quotes series that feels like a big swing at turning

celebrity interviews into appointment viewing. Except it's

happening inside. TikTok season one is a four episode

run of 30 minute live conversations

streamed on TikTok and it kicked off December 11th with Demi

Lovato as the first guest. The real Strategy here is

TikTok packaging what looks like an interview show into a

podcast rapper. It keeps fans on the platform longer,

gives advertising a premium sponsorship lane, and

turns music culture into a repeatable live series

that can be clipped, reshared and

remonetized after the broadcast ends. And

this is the second Demi Lovato story we've had on the show in

the 30 episodes. And the first time was a

legit actual podcast. Demi Lovato has a book club

and she has a book podcast where she talks about the books that she's reading

and she shares that with her fans. And just another a great way to connect.

And she held a live event, I think it was at the New York Public

Library and invited her fans and people

to come in and just talk about books and meet the authors and have these

great conversations and it was recorded and released as a podcast.

Here we have TikTok kind of doing the YouTube playbook

here, redefining what a podcast is or what a

podcast can be and then just only

putting it on TikTok without any other kind of distribution.

What were you thinking when you, when you read through this article wise, do you

think this is a podcast or are we kind of pushing the boundaries of what

a podcast can be?

Because. All right, so when I first started in

2020 I was strictly audio, right?

I had to go get a platform. I got on podbean, got an

RSS feed and that's how I launched

my podcast. I was strictly audio.

And then as I started interviewing

people and getting together with, I got together with a branding

strategist. They were a couple and one of the things

they asked me was did I have video content? And

at that point I was using funny

Streamyard at that time to record the

audio. I wasn't really using the video

aspect of it. And so

when I got with this couple, the husband made sure

that, he kept making sure, he kept asking

like do you do video? And my. And I came up with a couple

excuses the first and then when the third time you finally asked me, I pressed

record. It made, it made sense. I was already using

the platform

video. Long form video content right now is

at a premium especially with on YouTube and everything.

And then YouTube being

the large, one of the largest search engines and.

It. Being one of the most viewed

app out there, right? Like it's, it's, it's outdone cable and,

and all these and network television people. Everyone

is on YouTube so when, so is is video.

So let me ask you a question. Is video

pod, is it video thing apart? Yes. Because

if you can take the audio from it and use it,

repurpose it and put it on platforms

that, that distribute as, as a podcast,

then I would consider it a podcast. But if you're going to just stay

on TikTok then you're just a

tick tock show. You're not a podcast because not

they have to go to TikTok to find their show. Whereas if you're a

truly are a podcast, you have RSS

feed that takes you to multiple platforms that you're not

just on Apple, you're just not on Spotify, you're on some

other lower class podcasting platforms. And

so yeah, I don't think what

TikTok is doing I would consider a podcast. But

listen we redefine things

all the time. So I heard the same conversation on POD News

the other day, and they were talking about.

He asked a question. Is it on itunes? No.

Is it on Spotify? No.

Well, if those are podcast distribution platforms, then

it can't be. Not there. It's not a podcast.

Right. So how do we go about defining what a podcast is?

How do we, you know, we want to push that boundary. We want to have

independent media. We want to have people creating things. And. And I. And

I've veered a little bit. You know, I do agree that a podcast needs to

have some sort of distribution, some sort of rss. That really is what makes it

a podcast. Otherwise, it's a video show. And this is. I think this

falls under the category of it's a nice show. It's a great way to

connect with Demi Lovato fans, but it is just a live

stream on Tik Tok. Yeah, I'm. And. And not

everyone's on Tik Tok. Right? Not there. Some people feel

that Tik Tok is. Is kind of like childish, and they don't. They

don't do it. So for.

For you to just focus on Tik Tok, especially if you're trying to grow the.

Grow a brand and. And something that was said

to me, okay, that you want to

master all these different platforms, we should master one, I

guess by just doing a TikTok show. That's your way of mastering

TikTok. But eventually, if you really want to become

truly a podcast, you definitely just cannot just be on

streaming on just one platform. You got to be in the places where

your audience is, and you have to figure that out. And the way to figure

it out is. Is through testing, testing different formats. Like right now, we're trying

LinkedIn and Facebook tonight. You know, that's part of this. And what I

do with this show is, yes, I am live streaming the show. This is very

similar to what TikTok and Demi Lovato are doing. And I have a

theater space. We're recording it live in the theater, and

Wize is joining us on the live stream. Not much different than what

TikTok's doing, but what I do from this is I'll edit

all the video feeds that took to make this live stream happen.

I will release it as a video, an edited video, and

I will release the audio as a podcast that will get

distributed to itunes and Spotify. So you can do all the things that

TikTok's doing. But I think we really get into trouble

when we start only hosting things behind these Walled

gardens where you have to be on TikTok or you don't get to

see the Demi Lovato interview. Yeah. Let's

go over to story number two. Keep the show moving.

We're going from conference stage to canon when

live interview becomes the episode.

Our second story is a perfect example of live events feeding

long form podcast content. This episode features

Chase Lockmiller, CEO and co founder of Crusoe,

recorded live at the inaugural MCJ Summit in San

Francisco at the Autodesk Gallery. Instead of a

studio sit down, Cody turns the conference conversation into

a flagship episode, diving into

Crusoe's work at the intersection of AI and energy and

Chase's journey from MIT soccer captain and mountaineer

to climate focused entrepreneur. The big takeaway here

isn't just the content, it's the strategy. Use a

live high trust room, build a built in

audience, event sponsors, then capture once

and distribute everywhere, turning a single live moment

into a long tail podcast value. And this

is kind of what you were talking about on the last story wise. Here

you have a live event and you're finding people who

like the same things that you like. This is a, a conference of

looks like AI and energy. And this company

is hosting the event and they're recording a podcast. So they're bringing people

together, potential clients, maybe people that

they're serving in their industry, industry leaders, and they're

hosting these events during the conference and then they're recording that

content to release as their own podcast episode. So you're kind

of, they're getting the double dip. They're bringing in, you know, and creating this

live experience for people in their industry. And then

they're recording all that content all week long while people are at the

summit that they can use over and over again all year

long. What, what Think about like this show right now,

right? You're, you're recording, you're, you're

streaming live, but at the same time you're also

recording this and saving it so you can repurpose

this content. Like if you wanted to take the audio from this

and upload it to Apple or whatever or

Spotify, you can do that. So

you can have the best of both worlds. So it's

important that you do both. Yeah. One of the things I

used to ask myself was, what is a podcast, right?

It's an MP3 file distributed by an RSS feed to the

aggregator app so that people could download and listen to it on demand

anytime they wanted to. And then I, I asked the question, you

know, where is a podcast when is a podcast. There's a lot of

times the when factor was people would, okay, we'll schedule

Tuesday at 7pm you want to come to my studio? Or we'll

get on a live stream. And then the wear factor was, well,

I, I, I feel safe in my office. You know, I can get on a

live stream, I can turn everything on. It sounds good.

I just feel safe about that. And we started to push these boundaries

of what, where and when a podcast could be. And

you're starting to see all this stuff pop up in these different events. And

our next story is very interesting because this

is, this is the picture I'm showing people watching on screen right now.

This is live on a showroom floor at a

conference, right? They're just like, hey, we're gonna just, we're gonna

set up a stage. People are gonna be walking by, checking out the booths on

their way to speakers, on their way to demo new products.

But right in the middle of the floor, we're gonna set up

and do our show live. And this is when the trade show becomes

the studio. This is building off of those conferences. Now you have

the trade floor where all the other

businesses are trying to gain new customers. And we'll file

this one under the industry event as a podcast engine. This episode

of Digital Builder was recorded live from Autodesk University

at Green Bill 2025, turning a major

industry conference into a podcast studio. Host

conversations with Jose Gundino of

Swinnerton and Jeff Girardi

from Autodesk explore how pre construction is shifting

from spreadsheets to integrated AI driven workflows and

why the role is becoming more strategic and collaborative.

The strategy here is using an industry event with a built in, highly

qualified audience to capture expert conversations live,

then distributing that content long after the conference ends,

extending the value of the event and positioning the podcast as

part of the industry's ongoing educational cycle.

And what you see here on the screen,

it's just a giant booth and they turned their booth into

a TV studio. And one of the things that's one of the hardest things to

do at a trade show is to get people engaged, get people

stopping by, sitting down with you, sticking around your

booth and these type of events, these types of recordings,

bringing your podcast live to that show

is a great way to make your booth sticky and get people

talking about it while they're at the conference.

Yeah, absolutely. And if you're, if you're at the trade show,

you have your badge. The people running the booth here,

they're going to scan that badge and guess what? They're getting your contact information.

You stopped by, you showed interest. So now think of this as

your business strategy. If you have a small business and you put on a

local event, maybe at your local coffee shop or your library or

a little civic area, you can bring people in who are

interested in what you do or what the services you offer. Give them

some value, train them on what you do, show them

what working with you can be like. At the end of the night, you might

get three or four or five business cards, you might make some new

connections, and you might walk away with a few new

clients. And, and what you see on the screen here is a great way to

make clients in 2025 to, you know, kind of shake out

that noise like, hey, let's slow down, let's connect, let's

collaborate right here on the showroom floor before you're, you know, off to

lunch to get like a Chick Fil A or something. Yeah,

let's head over to. Oh, one of the. This was. We're at

war. I think wise when the bots start podcasting,

you know, some of the stories are we like to focus on live events, but

there are things that are happening in this industry and one of the things I

really want to focus on at the end of this is, hey, live

events going to be very hard for AI to beat us. But

it's happening right now. The podcast industry is facing a

new kind of disruption as AI generated podcasts flood

the market by the hundreds of thousands. According to Little

LA Times, studios are now producing episodes for as little

as $1 each, using cloned voices and

synthetic hosts to dominate niche topics and trending

searches at massive scale. Some creators are embracing

AI as a tool, while others see it as a breach of listener

trust, especially when human voices are replaced without

consent. The strategy tension here is scale

versus connection. AI can win on speed and volume,

but in podcasting, trust and human presence

are still the premium currency. What do you think about this one, Wize?

It's funny because you're the one who introduced me to ChatGPT, right?

Yes. I still remember that, that, that message

vividly when you, when you sent it and it involved the

Tribe Called Quest and, and everything. And

so, and I've, and I've. Since then I've, I've run with it. Right.

It's helped me structure a lot of the things that I do.

It's. Yes, there are people doing, using it to,

to further themselves and then you get people who

use it for silly stuff. But me

personally being able to use AI to help me

structure my structure. My podcast helped me

kind of build a business plan for building the

publishing, the publishing arm of Worldwide

Global and all these different other ways

of using AI as the tool that

it was meant to be. So for

me, it's been

a very big part of the growth that I've been

able to do this past year. It's been

because of me using different

tools. AI using chat, GPT using Chat,

using Cast Magic, using Minvo, all these

different platforms, all these different AI tools to really

help save time. Because like with Minvo,

I import my video feed

and it creates 30 clips that I can use

on all my platforms that distributes it right directly to those

platforms. So there's tools that's

helped me again

with the production of the show, with the

distribution of the show, so many different things.

So I'm a big supporter of support of AI.

Do I agree that there's a lot of people

using it in a way that I don't agree with?

Yes. But I think

if you truly want to grow and evolve, then you need to

use the tools that are available and run with it.

I have no problem with AI. I have no problem using AI. We use it

here to. I'm a one man show tonight, right? To get to this point,

I had to research a thousand stories. I need AI

to help me filter through. I can't read a thousand stories every three days

if we're doing two shows a week. So I get filters, I get

summaries, I'm scanning for certain keywords.

I'm using it to build the theme song, I'm using it to write the

theme song. I'm using it for some of the editing, some of the

enhancements. And that's, that's an okay use that. That's taking

the skills that you have and elevating them. That's, that's what you want to

use AI for. What some of these agencies are doing is they're taking,

they're taking every news story that's hitting the front page,

they're taking that context and generating a

podcast. Within five minutes it's going to be live and release to

the world. They're just doing 3,000 podcasts a day at

pennies per podcast. And this is the problem that we're having.

Here's. Let me go, let me just rewind a little bit. When you talk about

active podcasts, there's about 4 or 500,000 active

podcasts, but the podcast directories have 4 to

5 million listings of podcasts. There's

90% of the podcasts are dormant or they gave up, or they

were. They did a few episodes and they stopped. That's

already a problem with, with discovery of new and

active shows. So there needs to be some sort of filtering that

helps people find new and active shows. But if,

if we're going to be battling shows where we can't even compete against

the 90% of shows that are already out of business, then

a slew of AI shows isn't going to

help discovery. It isn't going to become a better experience

for people coming into podcasting or just finding out about podcasting.

They're going to be buried up to their eyeballs and slop, and it's just

going to turn people off. And so we need a way, and we should really

call on these aggregators to filter some of this out.

Can I toggle? You know, if somebody discloses an AI podcast,

can I just toggle a switch to remove that from my feed? I don't want

to even hear that. And I don't want, I don't want to hear.

The worst thing that happens to you in podcasting is you find a new show

you get really excited about, you listen to an episode and

then you go into their. I'll go listen to some of

their back catalog. And then you realize the episode you just listened to

was four years old and they haven't produced anything in a long time.

And those types of things need filtered out. And we

need to start figuring that out now before we have 3,000

AI slot podcasts dropped every single day.

Oh, no. And like you was talking about

the podcasts that are dormant, right? Because there's

only like 400. Like you said, 400,000 podcasts that are

active. Like, I'm, I'm. My podcast is active.

I release a new episode every week. And so

which reminds me, I'm due to release this week's episode.

But anyway, it's,

it's important that if, to me,

if you can

put out at least 20 episodes, then

do. Once you get to like 20,

you can continue to grow it. Like,

my goal when I first. Because when I started,

I heard about the statistic about after two,

three, four podcasts, that's when

people just realize that they don't want to do it because it is a lot

of work. And so when I

got to episode 20, I was like, all right, I got this.

I'm way past the benchmark that people

who stop, I'm like, all right, I'm at 20. So from there, I just

started Just creating content, recording more episodes and just

started releasing episodes like there was no

tomorrow. There is a hurdle.

You do the first one and then you realize oh crap, I gotta do another

one in seven days. Oh boy. So

yeah, so being able to use the, use AI to make

things so much easier for yourself and not burn

yourself out and, and people say oh, but

you're, you're, you're not being

creative enough or well,

if you don't write the right prompts into whatever

you're, you're trying to, whatever results you're trying to get

from AI then

that, then you're not like the prompts are very

important. You can't just not put in

specifics for what you want because if you do, you're

going to get, you're going to get. If you, you put in half

ass work, that's the results you're going to get. So that's why a lot

of people be complaining about oh, AI. This, this is missing.

If you use it the proper way and you do what

you're supposed to do with it, then I think it's very beneficial.

Yeah. If you rely on AI as a crutch to

do your work for you. I've heard Robert Rose say this a hundred times.

The best you'll ever be is the best mediocre

version of yourself. You can't use it to

do everything to, to come up with your ideas, to write your

scripts. It's, it's never going to be a better version of you. You have

to have the skill set. You have to put in the time to, to

be the person who can carry a show for 40 minutes, who can

stay on stage, who knows what they're talking about, who is the expert?

Then you rely on the AI to amplify all that

and, and become a better creator like some of

the creators we saw here at the McDonald's

has had a new deal with when the brand becomes the venue. There was a

cultural hub as a live platform. This was pretty

cool and included podcasting. McDonald's didn't just

sponsor Art Basil, they built a four day live

cultural experience with UNK Arts Haas

transforming transforming Miami into a branded

hub of art, food, comedy, music and live

podcasting. Across immersive installations,

culinary storytelling and performances. McDonald's

centered black creativity and community, including a live

podcast conversation hosted by Kenny Burns and

elevate hers. The strategy here is

experiential amplification. Instead of interrupting

culture with ads, the brand became the stage.

Creating moments that were live, shareable and deeply

human and extending the impact through digital access,

QR codes and post event storytelling. And

this is just one of those experiences that you look at and if you get

to go to the article which will be in the show notes, look at this

thing that they set up. It is incredible. And what an

immersive experience. And all throughout you do see like these little McDonald's logos.

It's like very artistic, but also like there's this weird like corporate

element. But to be able to show up and

support and have like this experiential

environment where people are immersed in the installations,

they're meeting the artists and they're having conversations in real time.

You can't buy that in a 30 second TV spot.

Creating these experiences and including podcasting and

performances and live installations.

Incredible way to, to bring your brand into the community,

to the people who are, are going to be at these installations anyway.

Use some of that corporate influence to, you know, lift

everybody up, build a better community, have these experiences that you,

you just don't get from the television. Who

else better the partner with than McDonald's? Right? Because

McDonald's don't like, yes, they sell burgers and everything,

but they sell a brand. Like they have a system

in place for their franchises to be

successful. Right. So for them

to create something like this, being that they're one of the

most highly

visible brands across the

world, like there's a McDonald's, almost none in every country,

to be able to collaborate with a brand like

McDonald's, it's just showing you

the evolution of podcasting. Yeah. And we're

not just showing you this, oh, look how great McDonald's is. And

they did this whole event and they put this all together.

We're showing you this because these are things that are happening in your community

and communities all over the country, all over the world. And if

it's happening now and it's happening here and there and all these

five other stories that you've heard from us tonight, then why

aren't you doing something like this in your community? I'm sure there's an art gallery,

I'm sure there's a coffee shop, I'm sure there's a library that is

all looking for things to do and people to connect with.

So is there something you can do? Maybe you start with

the local coffee shop as a sponsor or a local bar and they let

you do in an afternoon show on a Saturday when they're not selling that many

beers. You know, you could do things like

this on a smaller scale in your town and bring your

community together and find those like minded people who are just like you,

who love the things that you do and you can tie that in

with your local business community. Oh,

absolutely, absolutely. It's, it's important

so as to be honest. To be honest,

right? To be a successful podcaster,

you, you need to first conquer

locally, need to focus on where you at locally. Right.

And build from there. Like with me, I was

blessed where I had a lot of local

support, I had a lot of co workers and friends

that supported the podcast and that were here

locally and everything to

basically carry it to where we're at

now, where it's growing.

And it's been amazing

because I recall when I first started

it was difficult to find guests and everything.

And now with the way everything is

and the way podcasting is just growing,

I'm like, I open my emails and I probably have

four, five, six people messaging me

wanting to be on the podcast. So yeah,

it's been, is crazy just to see the way

everything is just exploding and growing and just

evolving. The next story that we have coming up is very

similar to one that we had a couple of weeks ago in New York City.

This one's over in Europe. This is

another really cool venue area where they have

live shows, but they're also adding in this additional

place to record recording music, recording,

podcasting. But it's also a civic space,

a space where people can come together and put on show.

So is there this possible collaboration between. Okay,

yeah, I do record my podcast at this venue, but

I'm getting such a following, maybe I should start thinking about

doing a live event on their stage, bringing in my fans

into this venue to do a live show. And I, I love what

they're building here. It's when a music venue builds a podcast

future. A historic music venue in

ipswich called the Bass has been awarded

1.92 million lira to transform.

I think it's lira is that euros it looks like

not US dollars to transform unused space into a

creative digital lab, including podcast studios, live

recording facilities and video production rooms.

Backed by local government funding, the project treats podcasting not as

a hobby, but as a civic infrastructure, investing in

spaces where creators can record, stream and develop

digital skills. Long term, the strategy here is future

proofing venues. Live music spaces are evolving into

multi format creator hubs where podcasts,

video and immersive tech keep buildings active

even when there's no band on stage. And if you think about

every venue you go to, the venue's only open

when there's a show. Right. I, if I've learned anything in the last year and

a half is if I'm not doing a show at Poduty or I haven't

booked anybody, there's a lot of nights a month that this

place sits in the dark. So how do you transform that

space and to become something more than just

a live venue? Well, you get grants, you start thinking

about the creator economy in the long term, you start

building out places for people to record when they're not doing live

shows. And I think this is just a great investment and a win,

win for, for podcasts, wherever this area is.

Yeah, no, absolutely. It's, it's very important that.

To, to be encouraged by, by this story.

Right, because like, with what you're doing

at the theater over there is very important because

you're, you're the next evolution to, to what this is,

right? To creating live shows, to, to, to

go to having a venue like that and, and being able to,

to put out live shows and, and you're, you're

providing something very unique for

people with the

opportunity to be able to come to a

venue and be on stage

and put on a podcast.

And all you really have to do is come down and just

sit down, just come to the theater and record at the theater.

You've got it to where it's,

it's, it's growing.

You've. You've like changed things around from when you first,

from when we did the first live event, when we did that

live weekend,

to now where you got different angles, you've improved.

So yeah, it's important to, to have

places like what you're like with what you're creating because

not everyone is tech savvy and,

and can't afford to. To get the

equipment and all this. So these venues

give give podcasters an opportunity to,

to shine. Yeah, we got down to a science. I

got that white glove service you could pull up in your Uber, walk

onto the stage, record your show. While you're recording the show, call

for your next Uber. Home. Go home. You didn't have to drive here. You

recorded a podcast before you get home. I will have downloaded

the recordings and they will be waiting for you so you can edit

it and then you get half of the ticket revenue. So there's

a lot of opportunity, There's a lot of things being developed and worked on

and places like this. I love what the baths are doing

and I just hope to see more like this in my area. Not just

we know there's happening in New York City, Los Angeles, but Can this

happen in Pittsburgh and Baltimore and the Poconos? I think so. And

I think you're going to see venues like what I built pop up. And I

think you'll see more studios like that all over

the place, which means we are out of our six

stories. Wize, thank you so much for joining me tonight.

Before we go, give everybody those plugs, how can people connect with you,

meet you, see your podcast and listen to it on

Real Wize Productions? Well, my podcast is

on all major platforms. It's Stuck in My Mind

podcast. Stuck in My Mind podcast.

This is like one of my original beanies, so my

original logo. But yeah, it's Stuck in My Mind podcast. Or

on all major platforms. Or go to the Stuck in my mind podcast dot

com. You go to realwiseglobal.com

there you can connect with me. If

you're interested in self publishing, books or

whatever, or want to learn how to launch a podcast,

you can go on the website, set up a

click on one of my calendar links and set up an appointment and we can

get together. Awesome. I'll have all that

in the show notes. And I got some plugs for old Jeffers. We got

Poduty shirts. $10 a shirt, four colors,

five sizes. Get them while they last. I only ordered

100 and they were at least halfway through $10 a piece.

Small through double X and just arrived.

Poduty hats. You like Poduty but on a hat.

All we got at 15 bucks for Poduty hats. It's almost our

cost on those and we talked a little bit about it.

Their shows, your show. How about any show? We'll

host your podcast on our stage. In our theater,

we have the best model in any kind of creator economy.

No contract, no minimum ticket sales. We record it, we

build you a landing page. We handle the ticket sales, we facilitate the

event from start to finish. It's a full

turnkey white glove service. You'll have the best time

coming off that stage after your event. And like I said, before you get

home, you'll already have the recordings waiting for you in your inbox.

That we don't take any rights over your content.

It's 100% recorded for you and you can do anything you

want with it. Which means we are out of time, out

of show. We went through our six stories. We know how to connect with Wize.

Let's hear that theme song.

Only live news podcast about podcasting

from the st.

The only live news podcast about

podcasting from the stage.

From the stage. Oh, thank you everybody for joining us. Tonight,

another episode of Poduty and the News. You can watch us live every

Tuesday and Saturday. The new podcast comes out

Wednesdays and Thursdays, so

keep an eye out. We'll have this episode that is actually going to drop

tomorrow. So I'm going to go home and edit. I'm staying up late tonight.

Watch wise on the feed tomorrow. Poduty and the News. Thank

you everybody. We'll be back Saturday morning.