From AI to In-Person: The Power of Live Events for Authors and Podcasters with Sarah Bean
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From AI to In-Person: The Power of Live Events for Authors and Podcasters with Sarah Bean

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Sarah, welcome to the show. Man, that theme

song just really just gets you in the mood. I need

to download that one and play it in the mornings. Well, I'll send it to

you. I do. It's kind of funny. It's like this high energy dance number

for a news show. So it cracks me up, the irony between

the two types of music. And we're having a lot of fun. We're talking about

live shows, live podcasting, and. And Sarah, you with Book Launchers,

you shared something with me before the show that was just amazing

that our guest last week, Amani, is a client of

yours and he was talking about the books that he published and the success that

he's been having. And he's one of your clients. He is.

We've been working with Imani for, oh my gosh, about eight years now

and have watched as he just built this

incredible career and all the work that he's done into the books and the

speaking, and it's been amazing to be on that journey with him.

Yeah, just, it was a great story, great to hear, and now we're going to

get it from the source from Book Launchers. Tell us a little about what

you're working on and what is Book Launchers. Yeah, absolutely. So

Book Launchers, we are a full service, self

publishing service provider. We work with nonfiction

authors to help them get their brand building business building book

out into the world. So as head of marketing and partnerships,

I work with all of our authors on their marketing strategy and I also work

with all of our great vendors and partners

to just continue to bring the latest in publishing and book

tools to our clients. So, yeah, there's Book

Launchers if people want to find more about it, connect with you.

What's the best way to get in touch with you and learn about Book Launchers?

Oh, absolutely. So definitely go to book launchers.com

to check out all of our services and you can find us at Book

Launchers on all social media channels. Definitely don't miss out on

our YouTube channel. Book launchers TV, we have Hunter

hundreds and hundreds of videos meant to help get your

book out into the world, building audiences and finding your

readers. Awesome. And as you know, anybody who comes on

the show, we have a crew page, Piduti. And the crew is

guests who have been on Padoodi in the news. And we have all the links,

all the bio information you can connect with Sarah right on that crew

page. So whenever the show comes out, go to news.poduty.com

find Sarah's profile. It'll be attached to this episode. But you all those

links, all those connection will be right there for you to make sure that you

can connect with Sarah, whether it's coming up after this episode or whenever

you're ready to launch your own book. Absolutely. I welcome that.

Please reach out to us at team@booklaunchers.com

if you have any questions about our services or how we work with

authors. Sarah, are you ready

for for our first story? Please, let's dive in. I'm

excited. Here we go. We have a book tour going on and we've

seen this a couple times where authors who maybe used to go on

morning radio shows or do interviews with local newspapers,

they're now taking their book on a road tour and they're doing

podcast tours. And this is a great example of getting out in front

of people and doing tours. And I know it's a lot of things that Sarah

will talk about here, but the Harvard Bookstore presented Mike Shore and

Joe Piznanski at the Brattle Theater for a

live discussion about their new book, Big Fan Two

Friends, 82,490 Miles and

the Wild Wonderful Sports we love. The conversation

featured sports writer Howard Bryant and tickets included

admission, plus a pre signed hard copy of the book.

Big Fan explores sports fandom and shared experiences through stories

involving everything from Wrestlemania and darts

to football, chess, pickleball and Taylor Swift

fandom. That is a lot to pack

into one live show. And, you know, it's great to learn that Mike Shore

has a new book out. Mike Shore, I don't know if you're familiar, was one

of the executives that was behind the Office on NBC

years ago. Great legendary comedy writer.

So really fun to see him doing a live event around his

book on all sorts of topics that I had no idea he was interested in.

Yeah, and a great way to really promote and get to the audience. A lot

of times we try to say go to where your audience already is. If you

don't know where to find them and you're an author, there's probably People

who like what you do at a bookstore. And so they're hitting all these bookstores

on the road, going town to town, connecting with local community people

and doing Q&As, doing small shows, small meet and

greets, and they're going where the audience is. And I think that's just a great

tip, especially for smaller podcasts. Absolutely. And I think,

you know, one of the key elements of what, you know, Mike Shore

did there is that he's partnering with the Harvard bookstore, which already

has a really big audience, already has a lot of

people that are just interested in different types of topics, interested in different types

of books. So partnering with a store like that is going to

automatically bring in people that maybe wouldn't have looked at the book

otherwise, which is great. But those live shows,

being able to go around and meet your audience exactly

where they live is a great way to get in front of new

readers. Yeah. Not only what a great bookstore, but the

credibility that comes with being at the Harvard bookstore,

putting that on your resume, on your website, as kind of building

that social graph of your appearances and where you've been and who you're connected

with, that's a pretty heavy hitter in the bookstore world.

Going to the Harvard bookstore. Oh, absolutely. That's one of the best,

you know, especially on the east coast, because they have just, they're so plugged

into the community and what their readers are actually looking for, what their

patrons are looking for. It's not going to be right for every single book,

every single podcast out there, but that is a great audience

for, for that one in particular.

Yeah, let's keep it moving because the same type of energy and almost in a

digital format as well. And this in person idea,

combining digital with in person events, as group communities,

as networking events within a community, and this comes to us from

the agent, efficiency and writer Thon Pham says the

rise of AI is rapidly changing the value of digital content and

live experiences. In his article, he explains how blog

posts, email campaigns, summaries and online educational content

can now be created at massive scale and a low cost

using AI tools. He contrasts that with in person

workshops, live sessions, which still require travel coordination,

facilitation and real time interaction. Pham argues that

workshops, live feedback and shared experiences are becoming

more valuable because they cannot easily be automated

or replicated. Absolutely. I

absolutely love this story and what's happening here

because one of the biggest things that wasn't mentioned in the story, but I think

is a big driver behind it, is trust. Right.

There's so Much content out there that is automated. Now from,

you know, what you see out on social media to blog posts, you know, all

sorts of things can be automated with the use of AI. And that's a great

thing. AI is an incredible tool to be able to use, but it cannot

replicate the trust that an end

user has to be able to build before they buy a book or listen to

a podcast or otherwise. And so in person

events, workshops, opportunities where an author

or a podcaster is able to look their ideal person in

the face and build that energy, build that

trust. That's where you see the magic happen. That's where you

really start to see audiences reacting to your content.

So I can absolutely see where AI is going to help you

automate those in person events are going to build the trust that you can't

replicate otherwise. Yeah. And as AI

grows and develops into whatever it's going to become,

the one reference it does make in this is that barrier to

entry. The cost of creating is becoming lower and lower

almost where content creation becomes commoditized, which

isn't a problem if you're creating something in your own

voice. And I think that's what's important about these in person events where

you're leading sessions, you're having discussions.

That's something that cannot be recreated with AI.

You have to be in the room to get that experience. You have to be

in the room to have that person to person connection, to

have those one on one chats. You can't get that with just

regurgitated AI content. And you're creating something

new that's never been in the world before. It's the first time ever it's been

presented is when you present it at your conference or your workshop.

That's something that they'll never put on stage as a, you know,

nobody wants to go see an AI speaker, right? I know,

I know. And think about it. Whenever you have sat in the audience of

someone maybe you haven't heard of before, but you know, maybe

you're on a conference or you're, you're at a live event and you hear someone

speak, speak and you connect to something that they have, have

reiterated from stage. How many times have you gone then and

bought their book or looked up their show or started following them on social

media, whereas in otherwise you made us, you might have skipped them all together.

If you just saw their name online, you know, there's nothing grabbing

there. But if you see them in person and you actually hear them

speak and feel that energy, you have something to connect with.

And there's so much more follow through from the audience when they hear you speak

live. Absolutely. And when we talk about live events, we

always hit on that. That you can't recreate that experience

from a downloaded MP3 file. Even with podcasting, you can

feel like you're in the room and part of that conversation, but you

don't ever have that connection that you would have if you were sitting right here

in front of me at the theater watching me talk with Sarah. Sarah's

answers, even she'd be up on the big screen here. You feel like

you're talking to both of us in real time. You can't get that just

passively listening to audio on your morning commute. You

being in the room makes it, it elevates it, makes it something

bigger than it will. Will be on just an MP3 file.

Absolutely. It just makes you part of that experience. I mean, I think people listen

to podcasts or they buy books because, you know, they need information,

they're taking in information. Whereas when you're in a live event, you're sitting

in that audience, you become part of really

changes the way you, you bring in any of that information.

So, yeah, I mean, I think this, this article really, you know, sort of

nailed that. And speaking of bringing in, Book Con

is bringing in a sold out show in New York City

for the first time in six years. The sold out event was at the

Javits Center. The convention featured live panels, book

signings, podcast tapings and fan events, including

a fantasy ball. Authors appearing throughout the weekend

included Veronica Roth, R.F. kwang,

Jody Picolt, Jasmine Guillory and

Riley Sager. One feature conversation brought together

author Rachel Reed and television creator Jacob

Tierney to discuss adapting heated rivalry and into a

television series and the process of translating the

story from page to screen.

I got to say I was so excited to talk about Book Con. I didn't

get to go. I wish that I had. I mean, from everyone

that I know that attended, it was an absolutely phenomenal event.

I think that the success of bookcon

from this year really shows how readers have shifted. I mean, Book Con

didn't happen for a while because, you know, people weren't really

sure that there were going to be an attendees. And now in this new

time that we have, people are coming back around to wanting books to

be a multi platform experience.

It's not enough just to read it anymore. They want to engage,

they want to connect with fellow readers. They want to learn the behind

the scenes, they want to get all the swag and all the different

editions of those books that they can, so that they can really,

really continue to experience the enjoyment, you know, to

experience what they did the first time they read it. And so it's interesting

that a lot of those authors that you mentioned are all from, you know, Veronica

Roth is, you know, obviously, you know, kind of fantasy,

Rachel Reed romance, you know, and a handful of those others.

It is a different experience between fiction and nonfiction.

But I know bookcon was very, very heavy on the fiction. And those

fan experiences are taking over. How many cities do you

know around the country that had heated rivalry

raves or, you know, club nights or whatever?

People want to take that experience from the page or the screen and they want

it in their real life. So this goes back to what we were talking about

with that last event. Again, that live experience feeling can't be replicated.

Yeah. And live events are back. Like you're mentioning. Book con hasn't happened in

six years because of, you know, things that have happened over the last six years.

But being back, people are craving

in person events. They're craving getting together with people who

have like, interests, who talk about the same things that they do, who, who

share passions and, you know, people who want to read and talk,

talk about books. Here's a whole place to do that. It's. It's a place for

authors, for fans of fiction to go and

hang out and share books and talk about things that they're. They're working on,

things that they're reading. And absolutely, you can't do that where else you

can't do that online. You have to be in person. And

events like this are just a great way to connect those fans. I mean, and

you think about it, I mean, part of the reason what happened six years ago,

Covid, right. We all got locked down. We all got put

into our isolated, isolated little bubbles with only zoom to connect

us. Now that the world has opened back up again, we're seeing live

events just take over because people want to experience things in the

real world. So I think what we're seeing is

a continued build, an increase in interest in these

fan events. And not just the fan events, but what you can build

around a book, Right. It's not just reading on the page

now. It is all the things that you can do with it.

And that's what, you know, is some of the most fun that I have in

my job is helping authors determine what are those things that they can build around

the book that are going to continue to keep their readers coming back again

and again. Yeah, and ironically, I really

think that this push for AI into everything

is really fueling this surge of in person events. Like

we've had, stores have been open, the states have been open for

four years after Covid, but it really didn't ramp up. But

in the last two years with AI into everything and you got to use

AI for this, your job. Once you use AI, use AI here, your phone

now has. You turn on the tv, it's got, you got to do an AI

search now. Like people are like, I just want to talk to

somebody. I want to be people. Yeah. And I really

think that this AI push is really putting people

back together again. It's pulling us together because we're just

craving, we're tired of doom scrolling at home all night

and, and just waiting for the phone to tell us what to do. We're like,

this is enough. I really think this is pushing that line to how

far can they take it? And I think this is why we're

seeing such a surge in in person events. I believe it. I mean, I

think too that AI, you know, when used appropriately

or used, you know, to help your business or aid what you're doing, it's

supposed to help you save time and energy. Right. It makes things that used to

take hours to do, it can shorten that down into minutes. Well, what

do you do with those extra minutes now that you have? You can go connect,

you can go out into the real, you can, you can do more things because

you weren't spending hours on the things that you used

to. So, you know, it's like, what do we do with our time? We go

out and we connect with the real world. Yeah. And I'm not shaming

AI. I was telling Sarah this is a one person show and

I'm reading, going through a thousand articles, I'm producing. Sarah

got nine pages of show notes. I

can't do that by myself. I work a full time job, I got a family

and you know, I'm supplementing some of the things that would take a

team of 10 people to put the show together. And, and that's okay because

it's the part of the show is the live element, the entertainment. Sarah and

I getting together and sharing these ideas with people who are watching and

listening. You know, that's, we're about the performance and

that's, that's something that's possible because of AI, we're able to

perform live. But you know, I'm not shaming it, but it's also,

it's also a reason why I Think we're seeing a big push towards live events.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, you telling me about how you're combing through

thousands of potential news articles and headlines

to identify the best ones. I mean, without AI, that process would take

you so, so long. So I'm grateful because you picked

some great ones. Talk to talk with me about. Yeah. AI and a lot of.

A lot of keyword filtering in that. Yeah. Right.

Well, one of my favorite types of stories to show are ones

where it's from an industry I would never expect

had a podcast. And we filed this under industries. I never

expected to have a podcast. This comes from Aviation Week. And

Aviation Week recorded a live episode of its mro podcast

during MRO Americas 2026 in

Orlando. The panel featured editors and analysts discussing

highlights from the convention floor, including artificial intelligence,

workforce development, supply chain concerns, aircraft

maintenance trends, and geopolitical issues affecting aviation.

The live recording took place in front of attendees directly at the event

and was later distributed as a podcast content through

streaming platforms. Yeah, what I

really love about podcasts that do a live show

at a conference or something is. I mean, it gives them so much more flexibility.

Right. Podcasters can put together a show

in a live scenario where they're going to get guests that otherwise

would have probably been a nightmare to try and all schedule at the same time.

So they're able to do it at a conference where they're all present. Do it

at a live show where, again, a podcaster is going to be able to directly

interact with that audience in real time, get real questions,

understand what people are actually taking away from that content

that, you know, if you just record an episode and put it out, you don't

you. There's still a barrier between you and the audience.

So being able to do this in a live situation just

enables you to enrich the content. You're bringing so much more.

Yeah, and a benefit of performing live is you're going to get a recording,

and that recording can be repurposed throughout the year.

And if you're the conference owner, if you're running

MRO and you have all this great content you created at the one event,

you can start to use that to ramp up promotion for next year.

This is what you missed out. Don't miss out on this next year. Here's a

sneak peek of what you missed. And even the podcast, they're going to

release that content over weeks or months following the show.

So that one week at the conference, they spent three or four days.

They may have developed a quarter or two quarters worth of content

for the year. So think of that one stop

shop for going where the people are. Right. All your

aviation fans are at mro. You're going to connect with them and

then have content for six months. Absolutely. And

what I love about that as well is the. The people that guested

on it can also use that content. That's one of the things with authors

that I'm constantly talking with them about is when you're a guest on a podcast,

how can you then repurpose that information? That's content for

you, not just for the host, but for that guest. That guest can turn

that into blog content that you can use those videos, use those images,

and to be able to build further association between your name and that

topic. So, you know, in addition to the show

being able to, you know, bank great content they can use for months

for the guest, it just becomes, you know, more gold. Content gold for them

as well. Yeah, and I kind of referenced on earlier, and I feel

like I'm just quoting Jason Bernard of Calicube is, you know, building those

social profiles because we are in a. We're talking about AI again. We're in a

time where AI is hungry for information. It's

gathering everything it can. And when you do make these appearances,

whether you're on the stage at mro, whether you're at the Harvard Bookstore,

you need to start putting those somewhere where AI can find it and

associate that event with you. So you should have your own website.

If you're just say you're attending a conference and I'm

jeffrevilla.com, you can go to my site and see my appearances, see

what podcasts I've been on, what stages I've presented on.

That's all there. And it's associated with my domain, associated with

my name. So this podcast, I was at the MRO

conference, they should have their own site, their own landing page,

giving those signals of who they are in the industry, what are they doing

in the industry, who are they connected with, what connections do they

have? And all that starts to get picked up and sucked up. And Jason

Bernard called it like a child who's thirsty for knowledge. That's kind of what

AI is right now. It's gathering everything it possibly can

and learning everything it possibly can about you. Absolutely.

I'm so glad you brought that up because you know how it

starts to gather this, what they call information gain. Right.

AI is constantly looking for information gain by looking

for the current trends. What's happening now? What are people talking about

now they're not looking at a website from five years ago. They're looking at

websites that update consistently. The other

thing that is really valuable, both from, you know, either the

MRO show or for the Harvard Bookstore,

is that AI gives weight to peer

peer relations, meaning MRO is going to indicate that

any of the guests that were on that podcast have weight. MRO as

a peer industry conference or group

is going to have higher weight in the. I.

Excuse me, in the eyes of AI. Try and say that.

Eyes of AI. So,

Right, exactly. And so AI is looking to see, as

it is starting to determine whether or not you as an author or as

a podcaster are authority. They're going to look to see who are the

credible sources that are validating that person.

Meaning, okay, that person was, was at the Harvard Bookstore.

We know that that bookstore is one of the industry best and is well

respected. That speaker was at the MRO event. That

event is well respected within that industry. So it's giving weight

to where you have been. So you need to use it effectively

on your website, on your socials, in ways that are machine readable.

If you have all that content behind a paywall, something that the machine

can't grab onto, it's not going to do you any good. You have to have

it so that the LLMs can grab what they need to understand

who you are and what you talk about. Yeah,

I guess it won't matter behind a paywall whenever they crack all the

encryption. But,

but yeah, it has make things accessible, make your

appearances accessible. If, if you performed on

stage and it's not published somewhere online on your website

somewhere, then the AI will never know that. It'll never know what

happened in real life. So that's one of the reasons you want to document

and log these things, is so that its association

is, is with your name with these events. And AI

starts to pick all that up and, and put, pull these things together

and tell people, hey, okay, well this person knows what they're doing. They've been on,

you know, 15 stages and 23 events. This, this could be

a credible source. Exactly, exactly. And if you do

become a credible source, you could go to the KUT Festival.

Kut.org and I think this is in Austin.

That took place on May 1st and 2nd at the University of Texas

as a multi day celebration of ideas, music, media

and community. The event featured live conversations,

performances, author talks and family programming with

guests including Adrian Mishler, Shaky Graves,

Senator Cory Booker and representative Michael McCall.

The festival included both free and ticketed events along

with activities like the KUT Festival, Street Fair, Texas

Book Talks tent, and the KUT for Kids program.

Maybe it's K-U-T. I don't know if they say Cut for Kids,

but this was a great little festival that happened. I know there was some

logistics issues with it, but what a way to

bring the community together, people of Texas together, authors,

and put them on a stage and share some ideas on a college campus.

I mean, it really reminds me of what TED is and tedx. Right.

Those are ideas we're spreading. Those are events that are meant

to put people together to spread ideas and not

agendas. Right. TEDx is all about

spreading community ideas that we can all share

and unite in. And that's kind of what this event sounds

like, although on a much wider scale between the author events and

things that are for the family, sometimes those can be hard to blend. So

it is. I would love to have attended something like that.

I don't know all of the speakers that were there. Obviously, I'm familiar with Cory

Booker and some of the representatives. But what you also want

to look at is when you're doing events like this, who's going to

be in the audience and what are they going to gravitate towards the most?

What are the things? Is it parents bringing their kids out because they're hoping

there's a craft area? Is it, you know, college students

are coming out because they want to learn new ideas? Is it intellectuals,

Academics? You know, it sounds like a pretty wide variety of

attendees there. Yeah. And another reason I chose

this story was we're talking about all these events around the country in different

spots. But this isn't as big as some of the other events.

There's things that happen in your community, even locally. You may not have

a small theater space like we have here. You may not have the

Harvard Bookstore in your hometown. But there's other things

that are happening, and there's probably things that are associated

with what your passion is. If you're writing books on a certain topic,

there's probably an event somewhere in your community about that topic. If

you're a podcaster and you're doing, like I do, quirky

game shows when I'm not doing this show and, you know, there's

probably, maybe even I could fit into a sporting event somewhere as an opening

act to warm up the crowd or libraries love having content come

in. They. They have media spaces and stages, coffee

shops. There are places that are smaller, that aren't these

mainstream places that you can start taking your show out. You could

do a Meet and greet as an author just at your local coffee shop.

Oh, absolutely. And I think regardless of, you know,

no matter what your topic is, just like with podcasts, there is an association

or a group for everything. There is a podcast for everything.

There is a meetup group for everything. And so a lot of the

authors that I work with maybe haven't been on stages yet, haven't

done huge things to build their platform yet. And I always say start

local, start with. Who are the groups in your

area that might be interested in your topic? So, for example,

one of our authors was working on, you know, a book

that was all about, you know, sort of the origination of the. The

Constitution and what was actually meant there. And

so one of the things that we were sort of guiding them on was how

to connect with groups like the Daughters of the American Revolution who are

hugely interested in the historical fact, facts.

And so there's always a little bit of an angle in what you're talking about

and what groups in your area could be doing. Libraries,

coffee shops, all of those are going to be helpful. Farmers market,

surprisingly. Now, granted, I wouldn't go and hawk your, you know, business

development book at a. At a farmer's market, but if

your book has something to do with local information,

if it's a memoir, if it's something that can reach a general audience, that's a

great way to meet people. It's really about

identifying, okay, who's my target reader and what are the groups

that they're a part of? What are the events that they go to? Are they

going to libraries? Are they going to, you know, conferences? Are they

going to live events, and then determining how you can get in there. I

also encourage all authors network like crazy.

Go to some of these before you start pitching yourself as a speaker,

and really understand what that event organizer is looking for.

Building those relationships is going to pay off in spades.

Yeah, you never know who you're going to know, and you'll never know them if

you don't go and network. Exactly. It's like gold

mining. Not intentionally. It's just kind of

like a byproduct of making new connections and making friends.

It opens doors for you in ways that you're just not going to get

sitting at home emailing somebody or I don't know if people still pen a letter,

if you're going to pen a letter to somebody. But going to those network events,

shaking hands, even if there's only 15 people in the room, I

guarantee you one or two of those people will Become connections

that you can do something with down the road. We host monthly podcast

meetups. Sometimes we have 35, 40 people, and I don't make any

connections. Sometimes we have 15 people, and I make 10

meaningful connections. You never know

whenever you go somewhere who you're going to meet, who you're going to connect with,

and get out as much as you can. I know. I

mean, especially if you're an author, which can be a very lonely business. Right. It

can be very isolating. I know for podcasters, it can be the same because

you're spending so much time trying to develop that content.

Podcasters, you have a little bit of advantage if you're interviewing people. You get to

meet as many as possible. But with authors, it can

be a very isolated sort of

profession. And so I do encourage all of my authors. Continue

to make the relationships. Every time you do a podcast, keep in touch with that

host. You never know what that relationship

will lead to. It's important to continue to be open,

not go into it with, well, if I don't end up on their stage, I'm

never coming back to their event. Be open to the people

that you're going to meet and what might come your way. You'll be surprised at

the roads that'll lead you down. I love it. And our

last story here, I really. They're like, okay, well, what is

this? This is a WordPress plugin.

Try to say that one right? Yeah. When I read through book

launchers and what Sarah's working on and showing authors how to

bring books to market, how to build community, how to network, and

really take ownership over that process, I really love this

tool to fit into that model. And the reason

being, if you're already building your site on WordPress, maybe you're doing daily

blogs or updating your appearances. Well, now

you can also incorporate your podcast into your blog.

And it's all in one place, all on one site. So really, that

idea of taking ownership over the launch, taking ownership over the

control of your content, that's really why this just came out over the weekend.

And I was like, oh, this is a perfect little tool, little widget

to plug in if you want to build that ownership over your

content. And they just introduced us on the Jetpack

Podcast, a new tool that allows creators to publish

podcasts directly from their WordPress website. The

platform combines podcast hosting, blog publishing, and

newsletter distribution into a single system. Podcast

episodes can automatically appear on a creator's website,

email newsletter and podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts,

Spotify, Pocket Cast, YouTube, and Amazon Music

WordPress says the platform is designed to help creators maintain

ownership over their podcast feed, subscriber list, and

audience data. I love this. In

fact, when I saw this story, I immediately sent it to our digital marketing

specialist who helps build websites for all of our clients. Many of our clients who

do have podcasts, because they need to know that this is possible. I

liken this to when an author has direct

sales for their book right from their website. Right. It's not

just using one channel to distribute your content. It's that wide

distribution and being able to do things that

those other platforms might limit you with. So, again, going

along with the author analogy here,

you know, if an author sells their book through Amazon and that's the

only way they're reaching their reader, they are limited by

what that platform enables them to do. By

bringing it to their own website, being able to

directly sell to individuals from that website,

they can control the content better. They get better information about who's

listening, who's downloading, who's purchasing from them, and they're able to bring

them into a customer journey where you can upsell them and do other things with

them. I liken this exactly to what this, this new

podcasting tool will do. It's. It's going to

enable podcasters to do things that they were limited

by before, whether it's exclusive content or

it's being able to bring people into a mailing list that they never were able

to because, you know, they only had people listening through Apple podcasts

or Spotify or otherwise. So I think this is a

fantastic tool. I'm excited to see how it's going to work,

and I think it's going to give the right podcasters a lot of

freedom, you know, but it's all about how you use it.

I think there's going to be people that are implemented and then do nothing with

it. And, you know, unfortunately, that might be money left

on the table for them. So I think for the podcasters out there that have

that entrepreneurial, enterprise mindset, they're going to be able to really

do some cool stuff with this. Yeah, it's a tool, and if

you can tap into it and figure out the best way to utilize it

for your, your strategy, your goals, then

it's even better because it starts at $0. And I think there's a

paid tier that gives you a little more analytics. That's $8 a month. So

the price is cheaper than a lot of website hosting companies.

And you're hosting those files on your servers. It's your

RSS feed. Nobody can take that away from you. Yeah,

exactly. This is completely yours. And back in

the old days, before there really were podcasts, people used to handwrite their

RSS feeds, hand code it and, and update it, like, oh, here's

my file location and here's, here's the description about the

show so it can be done. And I think this was a nice little step

for, for most people to, to go to that next level

and still keep that DIY mindset, to still control

it on their own. Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, it's one of

the things that we advocate for constantly is not just building

your audience on social media, but building an email list that you

control and own and have access to.

I've seen it happen with authors where, you know, a month or two before

their launch, suddenly they have crossed some arbitrary line

they didn't know about and have lost all of their social media,

all their access to their audience. Well, if you have your

email list, if you own all of that information, then

you don't have to be worried. You don't have to be worried about being slowed

down when someone else makes those decisions. So I,

I love this tool. I'm excited to see what people do with it and I'm

excited for our team to start exploring. Yeah, it's your

feed. You own it, you want to put something into it.

Nothing's stopping you. If you want to move that you can, you have

complete control over, which is even more powerful than having

a host on your side is. You're the host,

you have complete ownership over that RSS feed. So it's something to

look into. If you want to be independent, check out this new Jetpack

plugin. Absolutely. And

Sarah, we did it. That was our last story.

This goes by so fast. I spend the

last minute, I turn the whole stage over to you and

for you to plug, promote, talk about anything you'd like.

Sarah, the floor is yours. Oh my

goodness. Well, thank you so much. It's been great talking about these

articles with you. It's been really fun to see

all of the latest things that are happening out there. If you are

interested in working on your non fiction

book and you are interested in self publishing, I do encourage you to check out

booklaunchers.com we have lots of content there that

is going to give you the tools that you need to be able to launch

a effectively. Not only that, we are looking at long term

authority growth. How do you go from just a person who has a

book to an authority that has an audience that is bringing in

constant opportunities for you. And so Book Launchers we

have been around for over eight years, worked with over 800

authors, including some guests from this show like Amani Roberts who

was on last week. And we help them with all

of that strategy while at the same time producing a top quality,

quality book. One that you could put on the shelf next to

any other, you know, traditionally published book out there and be

proud of what you have. In addition to working one on one with

authors, we also have Author Launch Kit. Author Launch Kit

is our marketing software for those of you that are marketing

books and have no idea where to go next. You're

spending time and money and everything feels scattered. Author Launch

Kit is built with Book Launchers expert expertise in

marketing in mind. We took all of our knowledge from working

with all of those 800 authors and turned it into an

easy to use software that cuts all

of the guesswork down in a fraction of the time.

So I highly encourage you. Check out authorlaunchkit.com

last I'm going to mention, we have a free virtual summit. We've

been talking about live events this whole time and how powerful they are. We

have our authority Business Blueprint Summit

coming up June 24th and 25th. It's completely free to

attend. You get a chance to talk to our team, listen to some

incredible authors and podcasters that are out there. They're going to be

explaining how to turn that book into lead

generating business. So if you're interested in checking out that

summit, go to booklaunchers.com summit

otherwise I think that's everything with Book Launchers. It's been a

pleasure being here chatting with you, Jeff, and all of these great

stories you put together. This was so much fun. This was

episode 70. We just started this last year

and I'm having more fun ever doing

this show, sharing the stage with experts in

the field like the knowledge that Sarah dropped today on live

events and self publishing and putting things on. Really.

I'm a big DIY guy so there's a lot of DIY

stuff in what Sarah talks about. And get out there,

take that ownership, take charge and make some great connections.

And then ask Sarah one last question. Do you remember what

time it was? Is it time for the theme song?

Because I want to dance my way out of here. What time is it?

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