Connecting Through Podcasting: Festivals, Award Shows, and In-Person Experiences with Phil Better
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Connecting Through Podcasting: Festivals, Award Shows, and In-Person Experiences with Phil Better

Hey everybody, welcome to Poduty in the News for Tuesday, February—

March 3rd, 2026. I got a fresh haircut. They took out half

my brain. I've got Phil Better, the podcast mogul, joining me

today. Phil, do you know what time it is? Oh, I know what

time it is. It's time for Poduty in the News.

Oh, it's time for Poduty and

the News. Poduty and

the News. The only

live news podcast about podcasting from

the States.

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and the News. Poduty and the News. The only

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Oh, it's the only live news podcast about podcasting from

the stage, all the way from north of the border. Phil Better,

welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I wish I could

be in the stage like I was once before, but

I got snowed in, so I'm stuck here in my little igloo up in

Canada. It has to be warming up a little bit up there. Yeah, it

is. Today was a nice day. It probably was about I think it would be

considered 32 degrees Fahrenheit.

I believe that is what you guys use, uh, down south. But yeah,

we have giant eagles, so as a grocery store— eagles. I apologize.

Also, it is America. We're just— everything is giant eagles around here.

Jeff, let's jump into the news because this is what they're listening to. They want

to hear the amazing news you tell. It's so straight

because it's time for Poduty in the News. Do you want to do news, or

should we, should we at least know who is Phil Better and why is

Phil Better qualified to comment on the news? Let's go

about that. All right, so who am I? Um, I am a

podcast, um, I call myself the Podcast Mogul.

Um, hey Maurice, it's nice for you to be here. But, uh, call myself the

Podcast Mogul because I have been working in the podcast industry as both

an independent and working for agencies for close to or

over a decade now, working,

helping individuals, entrepreneurs, and brands grow their

podcast, both in downloads and in

audience, so that they can have objective,

actionable insights on what it is they have for their

podcast. So currently I am working with brands through an

agency and I specify in paid

media. So I can help you understand the pod-to-pod

paid media landscape. That's what I am currently doing. This is why I am

objectively able to talk about the news,

specifically pod news. I don't talk about any other news except for

pod news. And yeah, so if you want my opinion

on who's wearing what to what global event, I can't tell you.

I can tell you what podcasts are going to be on it. It's Phil

Better, the podcast mogul. Thepodcastmogul.com. Is there a the

in front of it? Uh, I believe so. I can't— let me just

double check. It's been a while, uh, since I've done

my— uh, yes, thepodcastmogul.com. The Podcast Mogul. I

was just there. I was going to send you some notes on the site, the,

the rebuild, the rebrand that you've done recently. Yes, it is very

good. The website is very professional. I was

really impressed when I went there, just seeing what was new with Feel Better.

But thepodcastmogul.com, check it out. The website looks—

it's completely different than it was the last time I saw it. Um, it is

like— so the first time was myself, and I have no webs—

I have zero credibility. I use my voice, as people can say.

Um, I have a voice for radio, a voice for storytelling, so that's how I

do stuff. Um, but hired a local

Montreal agency. She's wonderful. Elaine

Tsung of Manifest Dreams, I believe. ElaineTsung.com.

You can find her stuff. She does amazing work. She has been

incredible. She's fantastic. Check her out. You

will not be disappointed. She does fantastic work. And I've worked with

her. She's done this and I've helped her

with some of her events. Anyways, let's, let's get into the news. Enough about me.

I can't, I hate talking about myself. My God. That's enough about me. Let's talk

about me. Let's go to our first story. Of course I chose

a wrestling one. Phil loves wrestling. We got the Ring of Honor

free taping hits capacity. The Ring of Honor hosted a free

standalone taping in Jacksonville that quickly reached

capacity. Even without a major media rights deal

secured, the promotion used the live taping to build demand,

capture registrations, and strengthen brand loyalty through in-person

engagement. This was a free ticketed event. There was

registration, but they fully maxed out registration.

And, uh, that to me, this is the power of podcasting

in a niche, niche that you already love. Yeah. And then in a place

where there's already the fans of wrestling, if you're doing a wrestling

podcast, you know, show up where the fans are. Oh yeah,

yeah, this— so, um, ROH

is also tied with AEW. There's like some connection there.

And, uh, right now AEW and WWE are the two

major, uh, wrestling corporations right now. But you

have, you have ROH, you have TNA, you

have New Japan, you have AAA, you have

CMLL, you have a whole bunch, right? And so

ROH is the kind of like the— you could call it the minors, if

you will. It's still, it's still independent, it's still amazing. And the fact

that they were able to sell out a show showcases how much the demand

for wrestling is.. And

like, oh my God, it

is, it is, it's huge. I love it. And the fact that they were able

to collect all those emails as well. Like, just imagine if

you were a podcaster there and it holds 3,000 people. Let's say

the venue holds 3,000 people. You're a podcaster, you get 1%

of those people. That's like 300 people, right? Or 30, even

30 people. That's 30 new people listening to your

podcast. That, and they tell 30 of their friends because they're in different forums

and, uh, and in Facebook groups and different thread communities and

all this. It's, it's insane. I love it. This is a

chance, like, especially for wrestling podcasts. Instead of focusing on the big

guys, look at the independents, look at the smaller venues,

smaller podcast, smaller, um, wrestling events, and

you can create amazing fans. I only

know one thing about wrestling, and Billy Corgan

owns one of the— one of those leagues, NWA.

And so again, nothing that we talk more about on this show

is go to where your audience is. If you're already

a fan of wrestling and somebody's going to have a live wrestling

event, you're going to draw in people from your community who love wrestling and want

to talk about it, want to listen to the stories. Hear that inside, you

know, those inside stories about being on the road, setting up the ring and,

you know, the fights that happen, the storylines. People get

immersed into those storylines. And if you're a fan of that and you're passionate

about telling that, you will find your audience just

locally. You'll find local wrestling fans who want to talk about what you talk

about. Oh yeah, it's, it's, it's go where your niche is. And

that's the number one rule. That's what they say, the

riches are in the niches. Yes, something

like that. Let's go to story number 2. This is a

special one. The Women in Podcasting Awards open nominations with

an affordable People's Choice model designed to elevate

women's voices with structured nominations and voting

phases, sponsor visibility, and media exposure. The

initiative strengthens authority through recognition and

community-driven validation. And I have a special video here. I'm going to play that

real quick. Hi, Jennifer Henczel here of the Women Podcasters Awards.

I'm so excited to announce that nominations are now open for this

year's awards. We're heading into our third year of celebrating

and elevating women's voices globally and across the podcasting

industry. If you're a woman podcaster, producer, or expert

guest, now is the time to submit your nomination so we can shine

a spotlight on your inspiring voice and message. In our first

year, we had over 400 nominees and over 15,000

votes, and momentum keeps growing. Join us in honoring

the creativity, connection, and impact of women in

podcasting. Nominate your podcast or guest expertise today

at womenpodcasters.com. Let's celebrate the power of women's

voices together. Womenpodcasters.com. Phil's raising

the roof over there. I am so happy. I love

this. So I made a thread post

earlier this— well, last month, I guess, or like

within the last 2 weeks about the 2 niches that

are underrepresented, but growing

in listenership. So I'm slurring my words. I'm

just so excited. I can barely do 2 things at once. But the

2 things that are growing are the female

audience, is growing faster than the male audience and

the plus 60 community. So like if you make a

podcast for women in their 60s and

older, you have the chance to grow your podcast like exponentially

growth with both audience and downloads. So

like seeing an award ceremony for just

women and celebrating the women podcasters

that really kind of like helped grow the industry. Because if

we didn't get serial and the true crime, which is

primarily driven by women, we wouldn't be where we are today.

Like, again, women have grown this community so

incredibly. Serial podcast exploded on the scene and really shone a

light on how much reach a podcast can get, how big

of an audience a podcast can attract. And

Sarah Koenig was just incredible in that time

period, the way she captured America's attention through the

story, this episodic series. The world was talking about that

show, and that was a podcast, just produced in a studio,

a studio apartment, week after week was there,

built the audience, built the following, and really drove

podcasting to another level. So I want to make a shout out because we

don't we don't see where I'm, where I'm posting, people, uh, people are watching. So

I want to shout out Alex, Mark, and DR,

uh, from the, uh, Podcast Morning Chat crew. They're, they're watching live

on Facebook, specifically on mine. So hey to you guys.

Hey, hey. I'll listen to them probably 3 to 4 times a week. I catch

it. I have about a 45-minute commute, so I can just about fit a

whole episode in. Podcast Morning Chat, for those of you out

there Different topics every day of the week, different focuses,

different subjects. Sometimes it's why is this podcast working? Sometimes

it's legal advice for podcasters. They're always covering 5

different things every week. You'll learn, you'll pick up one thing an episode, I guarantee

it. Oh yeah, yeah. I have learned so much for

it. The, the, the, the earlier it is, is the harder for me to reach,

but I will be getting onto their podcast back soon. Uh, but yes, I want

to say a shout out to them, the, the Podcast Morning Crew. It's a

great, uh, if you can't catch it live, you can always catch it on

the, uh, on the audio afterwards. It's usually within a few hours

it's released, but it's recorded live at 7 PM Eastern Standard Time.

But anyways, getting back to this, uh, I love

this. Uh, I think more, uh, obviously males have dominated

the industry for so long. We do

need, uh, more women in the industry to bring that different

viewpoint. Obviously more minorities. Because it is growing in

other countries, right? So it is amazing

and I love it. I think it's great. I'm going to be

actually probably telling a few of the podcasts that I work

with at my company, at the agency. They are

female-driven, hosted, and that's— I'm going to actually probably drop a line

and say, hey, we should check this out and be one of the podcasts we

do suggest because we do have some female-hosted podcasts anyways. Yeah, I

love this. Uh, if you have a podcast and it's— you're, you're a

woman, make sure you apply. Womenpodcasters.com. We're

going to— is it football or football? That's what Americans want to know.

The Guardian records a Football Weekly live at South by

Southwest. The Guardian brought its Football Weekly podcast to South by

Southwest for its first ever U.S. live taping,

placing its show directly inside one of the most influential

cultural festivals in the world. Rather than relying solely on

digital distribution, The Guardian positioned its podcast in the middle of

a high-attention environment to strengthen authority

and brand presence. It's just another example of

going to where your audience is, producing a live show,

and just immersing yourself in the moment, in the experience of the

World Cup being in the States. Oh yeah, no, this is

freaking genius because One, you have the opportunity to

become the football, if

you will, you know, European

football leader. If you are talking about it, like,

let's say you are— just look at the

Olympics, right? The huge influx

of female fans in the Olympics because due to

the Team Canada, Team USA women's hockey

game, right? Huge. Like, it built off the back of Heated

Rivalry, right, which goes to the, the lady

books, uh, the type of books that the ladies love. Those— I don't want to

call them smut books, but those romantic type books,

right? Built that— built up to, uh, Heated Rivalry being such

a huge, uh, uh,

event, which led to more women watching hockey,

right? It's the same thing with, uh, this, uh, with— if

you— more women in in podcasting and all that. I think

it's wonderful. It's wonderful. I'm rambling now because I'm

so excited. It's wonderful. Yeah, football. We'll go

from football to football, back to football. We're

going— there we go, American football. We had a

C-suite experience at the Super Bowl where they brought

in keynotes, breakout panels, and guess who was

one of the main events during this like breakout

session before the Super Bowl was the Acquired podcast. They

hosted sessions, they recorded some material, some

episodes, and they just made the pregame the day

before this very exclusive, very high-end experience.

But part of that experience was podcasting. They

incorporated podcasts into the stage that the world

focuses on for one day a year. They built this experience,

this high-end experience, and they didn't just have bands

or magicians or comedians. They had podcasts as

part of the entertainment. And to me, that's the

biggest signal here, is that podcasting as a live event

is now the main entertainment at major events. Oh yeah,

no, this is huge. Though that

podcast specifically do a huge,

huge, uh, uh,

revenue, um, because of, uh, the events that they do. Because

they have like master classes and stuff like that and do

smaller events, and they, they bring

in money to sponsors to pay for the

event, right? So them getting headlined over

at, uh, the Super Bowl or throwing a, an event

in cohabitation, like at the same time as the, uh, the Super

Bowl is huge. And it is of course

again cementing mainstream appeal for the podcast,

um, and how great podcasting is. Because even

if people putting— that's like millions of dollars just to

put that together for that event at the Super Bowl,

and that's big dollars behind it, right? So that, that

is insane. You know, 10 years ago you would never see

a podcast as part of a conference or part of an

event or part of a trade show or a part of a

major event with the NFL. But more and more, instead

of having just a panel of 4 experts who answer a couple of

questions, they're structuring those panel sessions now

as podcast recordings. They're bringing their audience, they're bringing

the fans. They're bringing the host of the podcast to do

a show instead of just a sounding board of 4

experts. You're getting an episode of a podcast you're probably listening

to because you're already there immersed in that type of

media, that type of conversation. And now you're getting to see that show

live. You're getting to be there for a

recording of a particular podcast. It's, it's just such a power play

we're seeing everywhere in conferences. Events and things like

this? It's phenomenal. And I love it.

And with the rise of AI and the hatred towards— not hatred,

but dislike towards AI as well, or AI video

now, people will be more enjoying the

in-person events. So yeah, I love it. I think there's a big

win and you, Jeff, are primed to hit a

big win because you have such an amazing studio. Remember, you need

to go to podduty.com, but book your

podcast at podduty.com today. I just

redid jeffrevilla.com. Check it out, jeffrevilla.com. And

I will say, about a week ago, you know who started hitting

on the future is analog very

hard? Gary Vee. Gary Vee has just started hitting

on— as we get close, here's a quote. I'm gonna quote Gary Vee, so I

apologize if I get this wrong, but As we get closer to 2050,

the world's going to look a lot more like 1850, that

people are so hungry for in-person events, in-person

experiences. They want to do the live thing, and the thing they do

live will be the things that they document online. They—

people are revolting against AI content.

They're revolting against bots answering comments in their

own feed. They're revolting against the slop that's

just being dumped. They want real human

connection. They want to sit with their neighbors. They want to have a beer, listen

to a podcast, or do something besides doomscroll

all night. And these analog moments, these things that you have to

be present for or you're going to miss it, that's what the future

is going to look like in 5 to 10 years. And I think it's moving

faster than we all can imagine with the way the, the

news cycle moves so fast. I think people waking up from their cell

phone addictions and craving human experience,

human connection, is, is snowballing, and it

may peak as early as this summer. Oh yeah, no, I,

uh, I, I still say it's a bit off. It's when the

bubble happens, when the bubble bursts, or the AI bubble burst. But

anyways, that's some, uh, fear-mongering in this. But yes, I agree with you, we

are moving towards I have to agree with Gary Vee again, moving towards a

more analog. I think podcasting— there

was an article I read that talked about

someone watch, kind of listening to a podcast on

TV with someone, because that's how you have to do it. But you have to

figure out how you can make it consumable

for your audience with two people sitting on the couch. And once

you figure that out, you have an amazing podcast. But anyways, Jeff, Let's move to

the next, uh, story here. Let's keep it rolling, keep it

going. Let's go to— oh, I like this story. This is Home

Assist Meetup. This happened in Cologne in Germany. It

drew 150 attendees. This community-led

dynamic event. I think Home Assist community, I think it's— they make

like, uh, maybe digital products for the house, um, or

maybe 300 people right there. Well, that's just— that was the photo that they

took. They were doing speaker presentations, product demos, vendor

participation, and they recorded a podcast of the Home Assistant.

The Home Assistant has a podcast was the point of this one, and

they hosted a meetup. So this is kind of the other

side of what can you do with your community. This podcast, this

business got people together to talk about what they do, what they build, with

the services they offer, the things that they love to do, and they

had their community come out and hang out and do a show,

do a greeting based around what they've been building

over the last couple years. And this is just a great way to bring your

community together. I think this is something that's

phenomenal. Uh, again, it's just proof that in your,

your podcast, you can have people come. Uh, people want to be a

part of your podcast. People want to connect

with you as a host. They— there you can benefit from

this parasocial relationship that's built upon on social

media, right? But you can do it with your podcast and you can create something

like you, you talked about this. They brought people who created

products and that off of their pro— their, their platform or their

system. This is phenomenal. I love it. And bringing community

again, people are looking for community and I think this is

the, uh, the basis of doing it. You can really create an amazing

community. I think one of the members that attended even made a cake

like in the Home Assistant logo, and they were all afraid to eat it. It

would look so nice, they didn't want to destroy the cake. Oh my God, that's

amazing. They eventually cut into it. So if anybody ever wants to make a Padute

cake, I don't know what that would look like, but you're welcome to bring it.

I think that's phenomenal. You like this one?

Wild trout. Interesting. Tell me about it. Let me tell you, the

Trout Bitten podcast is hosting a ticketed live event at a

brewery focused on wild trout conservation with

panel discussions, audience-submitted questions, ticket revenue, and

charitable donations. The event reinforces

mission-driven authority while creating layered content for

later distribution. Phil, these are $20 tickets, so I

mean, imagine going for a night out in 2026 and your

night out is only going to cost you $20. There's a happy

hour, there's a recording, there's an audience Q&A. So you get to participate in

the show. You're talking about conservation. How do we, you know, help save

our local trout? And then all this gets recorded

and distributed for a later release, really aligning

their mission with their community. This is another

great example of getting out there with your community sharing

a couple brewskis, talking about some stories.

It gives me the feels. If you concentrate on building a community,

you can transfer them into actual revenue by bringing them together

for hosting an event. You can even partner, partner with—

because I have no idea what the Trout Bitten podcast is about,

whether their event is talking about trout, uh, saving

trout, right, and conservation. So they're probably working with

some government agencies or some charities or something like that working together

there. One, bring out more awareness about it, but also it

helps your podcast because more people come out to know about your podcast and

you look like a great person because you're helping the trout

community or whatever your niche is. It's about building others,

right? And you'll see some great growth from it. This

is phenomenal. This is phenomenal. I love it. I want more. I want more.

Tell me more, Jeff. Give me more news, Jeff. I can't. I gave

you 6 stories. Another example, a

6-story example of people doing live podcasting and one award show. So we

did 5 live stories, and I really wanted to sneak in that award show. We're

not— I'm not doing all, uh, 6 live shows

anymore, but I have, I have a bank of like 60 stories that

we haven't even covered yet. But I'm trying to work in tips and tricks and

some other things happening in podcasting that are I'm going to teach some

people some things. Uh, first of

all, um, to grow your podcast, we're going to teach you how to grow your

podcast. One, uh, you, you want your SEO, and if you don't know what SEO

is, it's search engine optimization, because the podcast platforms

are early Google and early Yahoo. They're

early SEO because there's only a couple

million podcasts out there that aren't active. And even

though— sorry, most of them aren't active. So you have a small percentage that

are active. So they're— everybody's— the

keywords are out there for you. And SEO is just figuring out the keywords that

your audience is using to search for the stories that they want to listen to.

So what is the— what the SEO keywords

you want to look for, for your podcast, for your niche, for your

episodes, right? Those are very key. That's your foundation. Once you get that

done, you will have slow growth. People will find your podcast over time.

You also have to have good content. If your content sucks, you won't grow

because people won't listen to you. No matter how good your SEO is, if

your content's not good, people aren't listening. Make sure you have

3 call to 3 points where you have a single call to action in

your podcast at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end. You want to

make sure that they're very simple. The first 2, simple as, hey, make sure you're

following the podcast. New listeners, make sure you're following the podcast. The last

one is the more detailed one where you go, hey listeners, make sure you're

you go, go ahead and hit that follow button, leave us a rating and a

review if you're possible. If you're listening on Spotify, make sure you leave those comments

because that helps grow the podcast. That allows— that triggers

the algorithm to show it to more people, which means we can build a community

and eventually have a live show. Give your audience something that

they can win at the end if they do this. Then once

you get those done, you want to focus on applying to every

single award Show that you can, be it paid or

not, because that can help you grow your podcast. And then look at paid

media. Paid media is very simple, just reaching out to other podcasts and say,

hey, can I pay you to put an ad of my podcast on your

podcast? And sometimes they have rates, sometimes they don't. They have a rate, they'll give

it to you. They don't, then you can

negotiate. Either you pay or you don't., but then you also have

platforms like Acast, Buzzsprout, and I believe Spotify

where you can, you can do self-serve advertising. I would

highly suggest you look into it. It could be a benefit for you because

you are, you are growing and talking to

the listeners at the level where they are at. They are listening to podcasts, so

why aren't you putting ads on podcasts? Anyways, that's just my tips, you

know, as a podcast mogul worker in the audience growth and

audience development. Place. Um, Jeff, how are you doing? Anything you want to talk

about? The podcast worker, the film mogul— wait, the film

mogul— wait, the Phil Better, the podcast mogul. There you

go. I have the same pitch I do all the time. You like podcasting and

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at the end of the night, we sit down, we go over the ticketing

dashboard, and I sell you 50% of the door so you could take 50% of

the credit. Every single podcast that has ever been here has walked out

the door with either no debt or money in their pocket.

There is no way to spend money here. This is a rising tide

lifts all ships business model. You produce a show, we help

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out the house, and we can continue to do this week after

week. Handshake deals. If you like it, you come back and do it again. If

you don't, hey, we go our own separate ways and we're glad we tried

it. Poduty.com, P-O-D-U-T-Y dot com. You

need to work on your pitch. You know, I get here, I'll work

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